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January 3, 2015 by Sail1Design Editor 3 Comments
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hello, Where can I find a schedule for fun ( not super aggressive ) el toro racing suitable for adults? Bay Area Thanks
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EL Toro is a 7 ′ 10 ″ / 2.4 m monohull sailboat designed by Charles McGregor and built by Schock W.D. and Moore Sailboats starting in 1939.
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The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
The El Toro is one of several variants of the original Charles MacGregor designed Sabot, which appeared in The Rudder Magazine in 1939. Others include the NAPLES SABOT, the US SABOT, and the HOLDFAST TRAINER of Australia. The EL TORO is primarily seen on the US west coast.
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The design was approved back in in 2014, and construction began in 2015, with the launch planned for 2021. Intended for coastal racing, this minimalist multihull can be dismantled. It can accommodate four crew members and should be particularly powerful under sail with its 23’8” (7.2 m) wide platform, 47-foot (14.3 m) carbon mast and displacement contained at 2,535 lbs (1,150 kg). Initially, El Toro will be equipped with standard daggerboards on the floats, but the possibility of designing foils at a later stage hasn’t been ruled out.
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For a long time I have wanted a sailing dinghy. Yesterday i bought an EL TORO. and while that is great and all it is not 100% complete. Namely, it has no rigging, and a bad sail. Where can i get a sailing diagram, so i can rig it properly? also, is there a place that sells sails just for this racing class? thanks.
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thank you, glad to be here. seems a lot less inflammatory then CF
if you post pics I can help out with whats missiing, Im used to the euro version the OPTIMIST which is the same hull but not with a marconi rig in essence the el toro is much simpler to handle and raise sail etc... post pics Id be glad to help they are great little boats and are a perfect dinghy for the mothership in fact Ill be building one soon or similar to act as a liferaft with sail rig for my islander 36 cheers
as soon as i have them, i will post them. It is our new dinghy. I wanted to sail for fun, but now i may do a few fun races when i find them. It needs a lot of work, got it for $50.
not bad at all! jajaja thats a deal sails look on craigslist or ebay...dont have to buy new sheets, ebay too, or use whatever looks nice at the hardware store...again you dont have to get all crazy...Ive seen plenty of el toros rigged with chromed pulleys bought at hardware stores too pay attention to rudder attachment too the hull needs t be looked at at the trunk where the daggerboard goes to make sure it doesnt leak...there is a rubber flap on each side that needs to be there or else downwing you will get a gusher! other than that its a dream of a boat to sail and learn on I had 2 friends, the goodman brothers in stockton california who raced them extensively, as teenagers...one was national champ once great boats in any case!
I am not sure of your class. I have an FJ. Intensity sails seems to have the best market price for the FJ. Again, I do not know if they can do anything for you. best wishes, Lou
The El Torro is a great little boat that came about as a result of a bullshoot session at the Richmond Yacht Club (hence the shovel logo) in the late 1930's. We had one as a dinghy on our Rhodes Reliant in the early 70's. For information on the boats see (click on) EL TORO sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com . For help with the boat, parts sources etc. see (click on) ETIYRA- El Toro International Yacht Racing Association
after fixing it up, and you get good, you can do the "across the bay" solo in san francisco for some real fun! jajaja
I did a search and saw many new sails for about 450$. When i was looking for an extra sail for my mac dinghy I saw a used main that might work for you at Atlantic sail traders for 210$ stock # 43563 and Intensity sells a new sabot sail for 150$
It's basically the SF Bay Area version of the US Sabot, so while there weren't a lot of El Toro's out there, you can rig it identical to a sabot, which have plenty of info on the internet. I've been patiently waiting to get a Sabot or El Toro, with oars and a sail and use it as a dinghy and for a couple hours fun on hot days. So anything you find on Sabots can be used for El Toro's, check craigslists in Los Angeles, Orange County, and San Diego and you will find just sails for sale, and they would probably ship them to you.
Sabot sailing kit. Sail, mast, boom, dagger boards, tiller, rudder. or just SABOT SAIL BOAT SAIL
Where are you located? I think I have around here a rudder and maybe a daggerboard. Not sure what happened to the sail, but haven't seen it in years. The Opti hull is not the same. Opti has a flat bottom, no keel, only a good rocker. El Toro is maybe 4 inches longer, and has a slight V to the bottom.
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UnionPacific said: For a long time I have wanted a sailing dinghy. Yesterday i bought an EL TORO. and while that is great and all it is not 100% complete. Namely, it has no rigging, and a bad sail. Where can i get a sailing diagram, so i can rig it properly? also, is there a place that sells sails just for this racing class? thanks. Click to expand...
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If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of EL TORO. Built by Schock W.D. and designed by undefined, the boat was first built in 1939. It has a hull type of Pram (Daggerboard) and LOA is 2.41. Its sail area/displacement ratio 42.23. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by undefined, runs on undefined.
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Sailboat Specifications Definitions Hull Type: Pram (Daggerboard) Rigging Type: Cat (unstayed) LOA: 7.92 ft / 2.41 m ... El Toro: Download Boat Record: Notes. The El Toro is one of several variants of the original Charles MacGregor designed Sabot, which appeared in The Rudder Magazine in 1939. Others include the NAPLES SABOT, the US SABOT, and ...
The El Toro is an American pram sailboat that was designed by Charles McGregor as a sail training dinghy and yacht tender, first built in 1939.It is now often sailed as a singlehanded one-design racer. [1] [2] [3]The boat is a development of McGregor's Sabot design, the plans for which were published in The Rudder magazine in 1939. The design has been widely adapted and other derivations ...
Although the El Toro was conceived in "Bull Sessions" at the Richmond Yacht Club in 1936, it has become a recognized class of over 11,000 one-design yachts and is the most popular "dinghy" on San Francisco Bay. More than fifty years ago, a need was recognized for a small inexpensive sailboat which could serve as a yacht tender and ...
El Toro International Yacht Racing Association - How to Build an El Toro. Transfer the paper patterns to ½ inch plywood and use these as router templates or carefully trace around the patterns on 4mm Okoume plywood as per the thickness marked on the patterns. Use a bandsaw or jigsaw to cut on the outside of the pencil lines.
SPECIFICATIONS AND SAIL PLAN. SAIL PLAN... No restrictions are made on materials. Insignia shall be a shovel, the dimensions and shape as prescribed on the grid plan. Official number shall be 10" in height, to be clearly legible on both sides of the sail...should not be back-to-back. Reinforcing of sail cloth shall not extend more than a 12 ...
EL Toro is a 7′ 10″ / 2.4 m monohull sailboat designed by Charles McGregor and built by Schock W.D. and Moore Sailboats starting in 1939. Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. ... The El Toro is one of several variants of the original Charles MacGregor designed Sabot, which appeared in The Rudder Magazine in ...
2001 Moore Sailboats El Toro. This Moore Sailboats sailboat has a hull made of fiberglass and has an overall length of 8 feet. The beam (or width) of this craft is 30 inches. Approximate displacement for the vessel comes in at around 60 pounds. While we do recommend boating classes for all boaters, we highly recommend boating/sailing classes ...
El Toro. We will keep you posted on new articles on this subject. The design was approved back in in 2014, and construction began in 2015, with the launch planned for 2021. Intended for coastal racing, this minimalist multihull can be dismantled. It can accommodate four crew members and should be particularly powerful under sail with its 23'8 ...
3491 posts · Joined 2008. #8 · Jan 19, 2014. The El Torro is a great little boat that came about as a result of a bullshoot session at the Richmond Yacht Club (hence the shovel logo) in the late 1930's. We had one as a dinghy on our Rhodes Reliant in the early 70's. For information on the boats see (click on) EL TORO sailboat specifications ...
1. Fleet measurers and regional measures shall be sanctioned by the Governing. 2. The regional measurer shall guide and assist the local fleet measurers. 3. No measurer shall measure his own boat, a boat built by himself, or one in which. 4. In the event of a protest at a major regatta, only the owner of the boat, the.
Boat History Report. A boat's history affects it's value—check the history of this 2007 Moore Sailboats and avoid buying a previously damaged boat. Check for storm damage, accidents, loss, theft, registration history and more. Don't get stuck with an unsafe boat needing costly repairs.
1 of 3. If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of EL TORO. Built by Schock W.D. and designed by undefined, the boat was first built in 1939. It has a hull type of Pram (Daggerboard) and LOA is 2.41. Its sail area/displacement ratio 42.23.
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2003 Moore Sailboats El Toro. The 2003 Moore Sailboats El Toro sailboat has a fiberglass hull and has an overall length of 8 feet (sometimes referred to as LOA). The width (or beam) of this craft is 30 inches. The displacement for the boat is approximately 60 lbs. Sailing is a great activity and can provide you and your family and friends with ...
02-04-2008, 12:13 PM. Re: Starting an El Toro. Hi Jim. The El Toro is a fine little boat - and there's plenty of racing done in them. This means that you might want to make it as close to the plans as possible: 1) Because you might eventually want to race yours, and 2) because you might eventually want to sell yours, and one that adheres to the ...
El Toro Tuning Tips. by Hank Jotz. Mast Bend. My sails work best on a stiff mast one that bends less than 1.25 in. in all directions. To measure your mast bend, hang 50 pounds midway between the bands with the sail slot up and the mast supported at both bands. Stretch a tight string between the bands and measure the gap at the center.
To order boat plans to build your own plywood El Toro Sail boat, order dolly plans to build a dolly (hand cart) custom fit for an El Toro or. obtain a sail number and/or Certificate. click the above link "Online Order Form". Mail checks only, payable to. El Toro Assoc. 91 Waldo Pt.
Tweet. #1. El Toro sailboat. 06-29-2020, 11:00 PM. Hi Folks - I just picked up and el toro sailboat a few days ago, mostly complete but I just need to find a rudder and dagger board for it. It seems to be in decent shape, but I have a few questions -.
The El Toro design is probably the most well known. It is the MacGregor hull with a dagger board instead of a lee board. The El Toro also has the pram partially decked over to accomidate a step-thru mast. Sabots are raced in the US (Naples Sabot) with a lee board and a 38 sq foot sail. El Toro's have a 48 sq ft sail I think.