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At the St. Petersburg Boat Show month last month, I had the pleasure of seeing delivery skipper and author John Kretschmers presentation on what he called sailboats for a serious ocean. I have reservations about any ideal boat list, but Kretschmer, who reviews boats for Sail Magazine and whose most recent book Sailing a Serious Ocean is available in our online bookstore , has the ideal background for this sort of work, and a list like this is undeniably helpful for wannabe cruisers who need a place to start their search.
I certainly wouldnt limit my search to boats on such a list, but by paying careful attention to the pros and cons of each, you can find something that suits your own aspirations.
Here are the boats Kretschmer suggests: Contessa 32, Pacific Seacraft 34, Pretorien 35, Cape Dory/Robinhood 36, Valiant/Esprit 37, Prout Snowgoose 37, Alajuela 38, Privelege 39, Freya 39, Passport 40, Caliber 40, Baba 40, Hallberg Rassy 42, Taswell 43, Hylas 44, Norseman 447, Beneteau 456, Outbound 44, Hylas 46, Kaufman 47, Tayana 48, Hylas 49, Amel Maramu 53, and the Sundeer 60/64. For a brief capsule summary of each, be sure to check out his website.
The list is hardly definitive. There are plenty of good boats that arent featured, and some of these would be ill-matched for the wrong sailor-Kretschmer clearly pointed this out during his talk. I like how the list presents a good cross-section of the various shapes and sizes for a boat in this category. For example, Kretschmer includes the Prout Snowgoose and Steve Dashews Sundeer 60, boats that, notwithstanding their successful record at sea, fill an outlying niche.
If I were going to expand the list, one of the heavier-displacement microcruisers like those I blogged about would be a nice addition. Although I would be wary of promoting even the most formidable of this breed as well-suited for a serious ocean, John Neale of Mahina Tiare Expeditions includes one of them, the Dana 24, on his own list of recommend cruising boats . Neales much broader list of boats is accompanied by a very helpful discussion of design elements to consider.
What got me thinking about formidable cruising boats was our series of reports o n sailboat construction , focusing specifically on structural details. Although there are plenty of excellent coastal cruisers on the market, once you start talking about offshore duty, scan’tlings (the dimensions for structural components) take on far more importance.
A few years ago we touched on this subject in our Mailport section, encouraging readers to suggest their own nominees for a list of what we called at the time, tough boats, vessels that were built to take a beating, requiring minimal care and upkeep.
Here are some of the boats that were suggested from our readers: Mariner 36, Cal 34, Morgan 43, Swan 43, Bermuda 40, Island Packet 26, Mariner 47, LeComte Northeast 38, Westsail 32, Dana 24, J/35, and the CSY 44.
Id be interested in hearing of other nominees for this list, or other good resources for sailors looking for a short list of good offshore boats.
For those who are frustrated to find that their own ideal boat isn’t on anybodys list, I wouldnt be too miffed. The best line Ive heard in a while on this topic came from Steve Callahan, the author of the survival classic Adrift , who gave a presentation at the Port Townsend Wooden Boat Show . When I asked Steve, who has sailed extensively on both multihulls and monohulls, what type of boat he preferred, he said, quite seriously. Well, at the end of the day, the best cruising boat is the one that you are on.
On watch: this 60-year-old hinckley pilot 35 is also a working girl.
Interesting list. I am fond of Hylas of which you chose three models. However, I am suspect of their yard and construction techniques and do not have confidence that they are as strong as they are beautiful. Only one Hallberg-Rassy was selected, which is a far more robust and dry sailing boat than the Hylas. Passports make a good boat as does Cape Dory and several others on your list. Didn’t four sailors die on a Beneteau in 2018? Over all it is a decent list.
https://metro.co.uk/2018/04/25/last-pictures-doomed-yacht-cheeki-rafiki-sank-killing-four-british-sailors-7497805/
I believe this is the accident you’re talking about in which a Beneteau and it’s bolted on keel parted company.
Almost all of the sailing clubs in San Diego rent Beneteaus out. They are a decent coastal sailboat. I have a couple friends who have even made the crossing to Maui in them..not me, not ever. I consider them a living room boat. Having said that, I am certainly no expert so its just my opinion. If I am crossing an ocean I want a capable kindly strong boat with redundancy built into critical systems.
Curious to think what people think about the early 70s Swan 43 as a cruising boat for a couple with occasional guests for a round the world trip? I have an S&S 30 which is too small but I do have some bias towards their designs. Add a watermaker and some power generation and off you go… Any thoughts?
Are Motor Sailors like the Nauticats or Fishers ocean worthy ( if their pilot house windows and sliding doors are lifeboatified ? )
Walt Schulz’s Shannon 43 is a beautiful, sea kindly, comfortable and sturdy bluewater boat. Walt had not only the ICW and Bahamas in mind when he designed and built 52 of them. He designed for ocean cruising. He believes his boats should outlive him and still sailing for generations. We sailed the Chesapeake, Bahamas, Caribbean and Pacific to Australia on a Shannon 43 ketch. She took great care of us and is still turning heads.
Great article! John Kretchmer is one of my fave modern day sailors. While there is only one Crealock design on John’s list, and the Dana is added on John Neale’s list, I was surprised not to see a Crealock/ Pacific Seacraft 37 mentioned. But there are so many great serious off shore boats, it’s hard to narrow it down to 10. Here’s a few to think about. Cape George Cutter 36. Biscay 36, tradewind 35, Rustler 36, Nicholson 31 (never talked about) and 32. Seldom seen on top 10 lists, but great boats. Thanks for the article.
Great comment and interesting to note that the first four of your additions are those currently entered in the 2022 Golden Globe Race – kind of the definition of a blue water boat.
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The Sceptre 41, due to designer Hein Dreihuyzen's vision, enjoys a stellar reputation as a solidly constructed ocean capable performance cruising yacht. Her balanced design includes a deck salon with inside steering without sacrificing clean lines, coupled with a full skeg hung rudder and long fin keel providing security with exceptional tracking. Her deep bilges with tankage mounted low can accommodate a row of milk crates for long range stowage.
Lucy May's owner of thirty years has equipped her with many recent, valuable upgrades for easy sailing. She has made annual visits to Clint Currie's yard for bottom work. She boasts recent North Sails inventory with a gennaker and snuffer, Leisure Furl in boom furling system with external mast track, huge Forespar solid vang, Anderson 40ST electric halyard winch, Harken MkIII genoa furling, enormous Lewmar 55 primary winches a full cockpit enclosure/ dodger with flexible solar panels and a full custom heavy sunbrella winter cover. She has both an Espar diesel hot air furnace for cabin heat AND an Espar diesel Hydronic water furnace to heat domestic water, both fueled from a custom separate aluminum tank in the bilge. A feathering three blade Max Prop propeller provides good motoring performance.
She has an Aquapro RIB dinghy with 8 hp Yamaha serviced by a Forespar stainless motor davit on the pushpit.
Keel: Fin LOA: 41 ft 0 in Beam: 12 ft 8 in LWL: 36 ft 0 in Maximum Draft: 5 ft 8 in Ballast: 8000 lbs Dry Weight: 21500 lbs Total Power: 55 HP Engine 1: Engine Brand: Nissan Year Built: 1983 Engine Model: SD22 Engine Type: Inboard Engine/Fuel Type: Diesel Engine Hours: 4115 Propeller: 3 blade propeller Drive Type: Direct Drive Engine Power: 55 HP Number of heads: 1 Log-speedometer Autopilot Depthsounder GPS VHF Wind speed and direction Compass Furling mainsail Furling genoa Fully battened mainsail Gennaker/Cruising spinnaker Steering wheel Electric winch Manual bilge pump Battery charger Hot water Refrigerator Microwave oven Heating Marine head Electric bilge pump Oven Shore power inlet Inverter Cockpit cushions Swimming ladder Solar panel Tender Davits Cockpit table Outboard engine brackets Electric windlass Cockpit cover Bimini Top Mainsail cover Spray hood Genoa cover |
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Join Date: Mar 2006. Location: San Francisco, CA. Boat: Nordship 40ds. Posts: 3,860. Images: 9. Sceptre 41. Hello All: The Islander 36 in Mexico was a bust (see Mexico or Bust) so I raised my spending limit and found a real nice Sceptre 41. Problem is this time instead of being South of the border this one is NOrth of the Border in Vancouver BC.
It takes into consideration "reported" sail area, displacement and length at waterline. The higher the number the faster speed prediction for the boat. A cat with a number 0.6 is likely to sail 6kts in 10kts wind, a cat with a number of 0.7 is likely to sail at 7kts in 10kts wind. KSP = (Lwl*SA÷D)^0.5*0.5
The quintessential BC pilothouse has to be the Sceptre 41/43... but quite a few $50Ks. Ron ... a newport/cc hull with a pilot house deckhousing on it. There may be a review in Good old boat in the future of a 27, i am recalling a 32 was also done recently. From the fellow that has the 27, there is a reasonably active owners site, or email list too.
Fin keel. The Sceptre 41 is equipped with a fin keel. A boat with a fin keel is more manoeuvrable but has less directional stability than a similar boat with a full keel. The boat can enter most marinas as the draft is just about 1.74 - 1.84 meter (5.71 - 6.01 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.
LENGTH. 41ft in. YEAR. 1988. TYPE. Sail. The Sceptre 41 is one of the most respected and sensible Northwest cruising sailboats ever built. With the raised dinette one can take advantage of the beautiful scenery without suffering in the elements. The galley is optimally placed near the companionway and on level with the dinette salon area.
Here's a boat with a million little details that make sense and a long-distance track record that's been proven many times over. Pricing for the upscale Atlantic series is in the $330,000-$350,000 range. Contact Heather Rouse at Sceptre (1993) Ltd, 23-12491, No. 2 Road, Richmond, BC V7E 2C3, Canada; phone (604) 241-9331.
The Sceptre 41 is a well built, performance oriented cruising boat that was well ahead of her time with a raised salon and interior helm station. Along with the raised salon, she has many other desirable features such as a deep comfortable cockpit with step-thru transom, wide side decks, and an ocean-going performance underbody. ...
Sceptre 41 is a 41′ 0″ / 12.5 m monohull sailboat designed by Hein Driehuyzen and built by Scepter Yachts Ltd. starting in 1982. ... The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. Formula. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ D: Displacement of the boat in pounds. LWL ...
The Sceptre 41 is a 41.0ft cutter designed by Hein Driehuyzen and built in fiberglass by Scepter Yachts Ltd. (CAN) since 1982. The Sceptre 41 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a good righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a bluewater cruising boat.
Equipment: Dimensions: LOA: 41 ft 0 in Beam: 12 ft 8 in LWL: 36 ft 0 in Draft: 6 ft 1 in Displacement: 21500 lbs Ballast: 8700 lbs. Engine: Nissan SD22 4 Cyl Diesel Engine 55HP. Tankage: Water - 230 Gallons in 4 tanks Fuel - 80 Gallons in 2 tanks Waste - 15 Gallons. Electrical: Inverter/Charger - Heart 1200W.
1989. TYPE. Sail. The Sceptre 41 is one of the most respected and sensible cruising sailboats ever built. With the raised dinette, you can take advantage of the beautiful scenery without suffering in the elements. The galley is optimally placed near the companionway and on level with the dinette salon area. The cockpit is well-sheltered behind ...
Gypsea Explorer: A Sceptre 41 Sailing Journey, where we share our journey of purchasing a Sceptre 41 sailboat, learning how to sail, and embarking on unforgettable adventures on the open waters.
Pelagia is a Sceptre 41 Pilothouse sloop/cutter, Hull #10 built in 1983 by Sceptre Yachts in Richmond, BC. ... Sail Area/Displacement Ratio 16.01. Theoretical Hull Speed 8 Knots. Provisional PHRF Rating 110. Designer H. Driehuyzen. Sails: (as of Summer 2011) Main (2011)
Of thirteen people on board this site there are two actual owners of Sceptre 41's and another who has one in contract (that's me) All are planning extensive voyages in the the next few years. What Perhaps we Should Start a Sceptre Gang - Cruisers & Sailing Forums
Here are some of the boats that were suggested from our readers: Mariner 36, Cal 34, Morgan 43, Swan 43, Bermuda 40, Island Packet 26, Mariner 47, LeComte Northeast 38, Westsail 32, Dana 24, J/35, and the CSY 44. Id be interested in hearing of other nominees for this list, or other good resources for sailors looking for a short list of good ...
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The Sceptre 41, due to designer Hein Dreihuyzen's vision, enjoys a stellar reputation as a solidly constructed ocean capable performance cruising yacht. Her balanced design includes a deck salon with inside steering without sacrificing clean lines, coupled with a full skeg hung rudder and long fin keel providing security with exceptional tracking. Her deep bilges with tankage mounted low can ...
41' Sceptre 41 Pilothouse 1981Specs and photos: https://unitedcityyachts.com/boat_listing.php?id=2345For sale by: Toronto Yacht SalesLocation: Toronto, ONCon...
I have a 41 and love it. The Sceptre group gets together in Puget Sound every year around Sept. The build of the boat is quite good. Here is a link to the Sceptre 41 website Sceptre 41 The prices on them have come down alot in the last year or so but you can expect to spend $125 to $250 for the boat. I don't think they qualify as beginner boats but the good thing about the 41 is that they are ...
19468 posts · Joined 2005. #4 · Mar 31, 2015. Up until you brought up Wake Is and HI I was ready to recommend boats like the Brewer 40 PH, Sceptre 41/43, Cooper 416 as good cold weather boats often with inside steering stations, as do most PH boats. Still appealing, as there are measures you can take to protect larger windows for off shore.
Sceptre 41 for sale in Seattle Washington. View pictures and details of this boat or search for more Sceptre boats for sale on boats.com. Explore. Back. Explore ... Boat Reviews. Dehler 42: First Look Video. Lenny Rudow. March 11, 2016. Boat Reviews. Grand Soleil 43: Dynamic Package for Connoisseurs. Dieter Loibner. July 5, 2012.
Sailboat Review: Dufour 41. In form, style and execution, the bold and colorfyl Umberto Felci-designed Dufour 41 is in a distinct class of its own. By Herb McCormick September 17, 2024 With naval architecture by Umberto Felci, the 41 is a solid performer, staying true to the brand's DNA.