Montgomery 17 fd
The montgomery 17 fd is a 17.08ft masthead sloop designed by lyle hess/gerry montgomery and built in fiberglass by montgomery marine products since 1975..
The Montgomery 17 fd is a light sailboat which is a very high performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat.
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Main features
| Model | Montgomery 17 fd | ||
| Length | 17.08 ft | ||
| Beam | 7.33 ft | ||
| Draft | 1.75 ft | ||
| Country | United states (North America) | ||
| Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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| Sail area / displ. | 23.23 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 37.04 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 151.93 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 9.06 | ||
| Capsize | 2.66 |
| Hull type | Monohull keel with centerboard | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 15.83 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 3.50 ft | ||
| Displacement | 1350 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 500 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 5.33 knots |
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| Rigging | Masthead Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 177 sq.ft | ||
| Air draft | 0 ft | ?? | |
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| Sail area main | 0 sq.ft | ?? | |
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| E | 0 ft | ?? |
| Nb engines | 1 | ||
| Total power | 0 HP | ||
| Fuel capacity | 0 gals |
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| Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
| Nb of berths | 0 | ||
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Builder data
| Builder | Montgomery Marine Products | ||
| Designer | Lyle Hess/Gerry Montgomery | ||
| First built | 1975 | ||
| Last built | 0 | ?? | |
| Number built | 0 | ?? |
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Montgomery 17
Design characteristics.
| Builder | Montgomery Marine Products and Montgomery Boats |
| Designer | Lyle Hess |
| LOA | 17'2" |
| LWL | 15'10" |
| Draft | 1'9" |
| Draft Down | 15'10" |
| Beam | 7'4" |
| Displacement | |
| Production Start | 1973 |
| Production End | |
| Number Built | |
| Weight | 1600 lbs |
| Trailer Weight | 2300 lbs |
History and Description
Written by jerry montgomery.
The Montgomery 17 was designed by Lyle Hess, a well-known and highly respected designer of blue-water cruising boats, as an able coastal cruiser; small enough to be easily trailered but capable of moderate offshore passages. The first 17s were made as fixed keel boats, with a 525 lb. cast iron, bolt-on keel, and we took the first two to the Newport, RI, and Annapolis, MD boat shows in the fall of ’73 and sold over 30 of them between the two shows, strictly on the reputations of the designer and builder and the obvious quality of the boat.
Several of these were fixed keel boats, but most were orders for the announced keel/centerboard version. A total of about 20 of the early fixed keel 17s were made and the remain very stiff, seaworthy boats. (These boats are now old enough that keel bolts should be replaced for safety’s sake, and I still have a supply of the old 5/8" hi-tensile galvanized steel bolts, which are very difficult to find now). Soon after the shows, we finished the tooling for the still-current keel/CB version. I believe that the M-17 was the first production boat to use end-grain balsa coring in the deck.
In the late 70’s we made several flush deck 17s, which were a racing version with a flat deck like a Soling or Etchells 22, with no house and a small, self bailing cockpit. This started out as a lark, actually, because a good friend, also a boat builder, agreed to make the plug (mock-up) for the new deck mold in exchange for a 17 hull, which he wanted to finish off and sail to Hawaii. I made a mold off the plug, and made the first boat, Coyote, for myself. I took it to the October race in Guaymas, Mexico a few weeks later, and even though I did not yet have a spinnaker, finished 6th boat-for-boat on the first day and 2nd on the second day. A Venture 17 and I were the two smallest boats in the fleet, and not knowing anything about a Montgomery 17, let alone a flush deck 17, the race committee rated me the same as the Venture, which is a slow boat, and I won by so much on corrected time the first day that I had only to finish on he second day in order to take first overall. I also won the second day.
Later in the year, I sold "Coyote" (to an incredible guy in Tucson who won the Guaymas race the next two years with it) to help dig up money for the down payment on a house. The flush deck was a little lighter than a normal 17, had less windage because of the flat deck, and had a taller and higher aspect rig. It was a handful in a blow, but a light air bomb! I ended up building 9 of them, but destroyed the deck mold when I moved to the Sacramento area in 1987.
During the late 70’s we also made 15 or 20 tall rig 17’s; the mast was 1’9" taller than normal. Most of these were sold in the light-air areas of southern California and Arizona (mostly sailed in the Sea of Cortez).
In 1981 we retooled the 17, mostly because the molds had had several hundred boats made form them and were getting worn out, but incorporated several minor changes, like improving the windows, cockpit drainage, and the hull/deck joint, and changing the toe rails, forward hatch details, etc. In about ’84 we changed from extruded aluminum toe rails to those of teak, mostly because of changing market trends. In 1987 we made a centerboard change; from cast iron to fiberglass with a lead core. The new centerboards were thicker in section but smaller in profile, and I can’t tell the difference between the two types in sailing them. This change was made in response to death threats and other complaints resulting from the rusting problem common to cast iron. The new centerboards are no better, but they don’t rust. The older ones are probably more reliable, being cast iron, but we’ve had no problems with the new after 6 years. At the same time, we changed from steel to lead ballast, and increased the total ballast weight from 55 to 600 lbs.
The older, pre-81 17s are nearly as good as the newer; the difference being mostly that of cosmetics and other slight refinements, but they are usually a good bit less expensive in the broker’s yards. The biggest improvement in the 1981 17 was the addition of the wet locker, and the resulting improvement in cockpit drainage.
Other changes have been in the interior. Originally the 17 had a "three berth" interior; a double berth forward and a quarter berth on the starboard. On port, opposite the starboard berth, was a molded-in galley unit consisting of a sink with storage under, and a place for a stove. A few years later (about ’78 or so) we tooled a new interior with four berths, replacing the galley unit with a port side quarter berth which was a mirror-image of the starboard berth.
Neither of these interiors was perfect. The 3-berth lacked sitting room below; two people could shoehorn themselves onto the starboard berth and sit there like a couple of sardines, but it was far from comfortable. The galley/sink unit was seldom used except in cold or wet weather. And its most valuable qualities were the storage under, and even more important, the cockpit storage behind it, accessible through the port side cockpit hatch. The 4-berth had great sitting room for two people (or cramped room for four), but no galley for storage, and since the portside quarter berth ran all the way back under the cockpit, no storage there. To me, the 4-berth was the least desirable of the interiors.
In about ’87, we changed to the present interior, which is an adaptation of the previous two. On port, instead of the galley, we have a shortened (5’ long) berth that allows the much-needed sitting room and is long enough for a half-grown kid to sleep on, but still leaves enough room behind it for cockpit accessed storage. This is by far the best interior of the three and we have long since discontinued the other two.
Sail Measurements provided by Jerry Montgomery
Standard rig.
- I - 22.92 FT
- J - 7.16 FT
- P - 19.33 FT
- E - 7.75 FT
Tall rig is same except I and P are 1.75 FT longer. Working jib as supplied by Montgomery was a 109%.
- I - 25.08 FT
- P - 22.5 FT
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| Boat Name | Montgomery 17 | |
| Manufacturer | Montgomery Marine Products | |
| Hull Type | Pocket Cruiser | |
| LOA | 17'2" | (5.23m) |
| Beam | 7'4" | (2.23m) |
| Weight | 1600 | (727.2kg) |
| Ballast | 600 | (272.7kg) |
| Keel Type | shoal keel | |
| Berths | 4 | |
| Draft Up | 1'9" | (0.53m) |
| Draft Down | 3'0" | (0.91m) |
| Year Start | 1973 | |
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| Number Made | ||
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| Shortypen ID | 53 | |
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Are the new Montgomery 17s as good as the old ones? Had been looking at a Sanibel 18, but the Montgomery looks like a better design. Any thoughts on buying a new Montgomery 17.
I have been doing some research into buying a new Montgomery also. From what I have gathered they are every bit as good as when Jerry Montgomery built them. Quality wise they are way above the Sanibel 18s. The Montgomery's are the priciest boat you will find of this size, but I have always heard that the build quality is as good as it gets for a mass produced 17 footer. You might also look at the Sage 17. It is a boat that is not yet in production. It was designed by Jerry Montgomery as an updated Montgomery 17. I know the Sage is a 3/4 rig vrs a 7/8 rig of the Montgomery. There are several other design changes though offhand I don't know what they are. I haven't heard one way or the other if it is built to be and "offshore" boat. Or as much as a 17' can be.
IIRC, Jerry is still fairly heavily involved with the company and I doubt he'd let the quality of the boats slide much without calling them on it, considering it is HIS NAME that is associated with the boats. A couple years ago, they outfitted a customized M17 for a circumnavigation... so they're pretty tough little boats.
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SOLD PPU 2008 Norsea Marine Montgomery 17 Sailboat - $18,500 ** OBO **
Montgomery 17 sailboat in excellent, turn key condition. Designed by Lyle Hess, the designer known for well sailing, rugged boats that bring their crews home. Built by Robert Eeg in California.
The M17 is a mast head sloop, that has a skeg keel, with the addition of a small swing keel. Max draft is 3.5 feet, min draft is 1.75 feet, she sails beautifully, with a balanced helm, a little boat that sails like a keel boat. All lines are led aft, cockpit is the size of a much larger boat, a cockpit the size of a 25 footer is the most often heard comparison.
Equipment: Upgrades include: LED lights Shelden Furlex furler upgrade Anderson 12 self-tailing winches Dyneema backstay (original backstay in good condition included) Custom Sailors Tailor Boat Cover. Many blocks and cleats were replaced and updated. Originals are included as spares as well as
performance sheets and halyards added in 2021 Bay Sails Triradial Main and Genoa 2021 (Excellent Condition like new) Original Tanbark Elliot Patterson sails included Custom retractable bow sprit added for Asymmetrical spinnaker Precision sails asymmetrical spinnaker with sock (still crinkly). Custom retractable bowsprit fabricated.
Spinlock EJ/1200s tiller adjustable extension 3 tillers, each a different length Rudder Craft kick up rudder Modified for internally run halyards Tller Clutch system added in 2022 Raymarine ST1000 Auto Pilot added in 2023.
2006 Tohatsu 6 hp motor. Maintained regularly. Very reliable Mainsheet system upgraded to include ratcheting block for heavy winds. Small solar charger to keep battery topped up. Dometic Porta potty with push button flush. Manson Supreme anchor. Anchor buddy system
2008 Pacific Boat Trailer with extendable tongue to make launching and retrieving easy. Uses UFP Vault bearing system for no maintenance bearings. Spare UFP bearings and lubricant included (Purchased in 2021). The boat was kept at a mooring, so the trailer was only used twice a year for the last 8 years. All tires and spares were replaced last year.
Rig and Sails
Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
Early boats had a fixed keel. In addition, a flush deck version was also available.
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