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Downsizing - J22, Capri 21, any thoughts?Hi Everybody - I am in process of selling my trustee Pearson 30 - I need a smaller boat that I can keep on a trailer and sail on the Hudson R. - preferably a boat that requires minimal maintenance but still gives me the well-balanced helm. I like the J-22 although I am worried that a J-22 in my price range (10K max) will come with potential structural problems. I like the Capri 21 - it looks nice and seems to get good reviews but am not sure if the sailing capabilities will be there? Anyone have any thoughts on this? Thanks! Chris I crewed on a j22 for a couple of years that belongs to a friend of mine. I can tell you that if I were going to downsize to another daysailor it would be the J22, without question. I would consider it one of the fastest boats that can be sailed in a wide variety of conditions that you can buy for the money. With standard rigging a crew of 2 can sail and race. (I've seen it raced solo, but you have to really know the boat.) With a few changes you could easily single hand. There are plenty out there that can be had for < 10K. They may need a little polish, but otherwise in good shape. I know of one that sold recently for <9K with 2 suits of sails and newly faired keel, with float off trailer. What part of the country are you in? I have owned a J22 and sailed a Capri 22. Both are very nice boats, sail well, and are a lot of fun. The Capri is a bargain next to the J, and probably a bit more comfortable. If you are in a J22 fleet, nothing else will do. Otherwise, the Capri is a good choice. J22 vs Capri 22 I own a 2002 Capri 22 and think it's a great boat. The J22 is also and will rate somewhat faster but the Capri 22 is definitely a better value and more accomodating on the interior if you plan to do anything but race. Here is a link to my review of the boat. There are several other Capri 22 owner reviews there as well. I used to own a J30 and am a big Jboat fan as well. Either is a great choice and both are excellent sailing boats. Jon http://www.sailboatowners.com/reviews/revread.tpl?fno=20&id=11647180521367655 Thanks for the info - once I have sold my present boat I will probably just make a survey of the J-22s and Capris in my area and then make some kind of decision. One other boat that has been mentioned is the Ultimate 20 but it looks almost as expensive as a used Corsair... Agreed that J-22 is the choice for the Hudson. Hint: the afternoon thermals on the East side of the river in the afternoon will keep you ghosting along, no matter how windless the day. Tough to gost against 1Kt+ currents. Hershey I've owned a J22 and will tell you it's a great boat!! I know of no known structural issues that would keep me from owning another one. The J24, another great boat, is a different story. Regardless, any boat's issues can be addressed. I would vote for the J22. Yup, I'm biased. The boat is a great racer as well as day sailor. That said, I've never read a bad review of the Capri 22. it is reported as a highly responsive and fun boat to sail. And, like you, it would be on my short list of fun boats to sail. Maybe, get on both boats and take them for a spin. About the Jboat - find one with a trailer. Triad single axle is the standard trailer for that boat. I've seen perfectly buyable J22s, with trailer, for as low as $6000 asking. I'm sure there are even less expensive ones to be had. I recognize that "hershey" who owns a Capri 22... I owned a Capri 22, and have sailed on a J/22... The J/22 is hands down a blast to sail... but for $10k... Buy an older Capri 22, and put the extra $5k in sails! Then you can outsail the $10k J/22 with worn out sails! Seriously the Capri 22 is a great sailing boat.. it's NOT as fast as the J/22 but the parts are cheaper, it's cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, if you get the wing keel model it's easier to launch, it's easier to solo sail... NOW - if you plan to race ONLY (probably not yet).. and you have a J/22 fleet nearby, stretch NOW for the J/22 (you'll get crew quickly). For a starter keel boat, the Capri 22 is a slam dunk... It just is... if you race it in Handicapped fleets, it does OK as well. The BEST model Capri to find is the Fin Keel, tall rig, first generation... but it'll also be the hardest to solo sail and launch. The easiest to learn on is the Regular rig, newest generation wing keel model. If you want to ask questions about the Capri 22, check out http://http://www.capri22.net/phpbb/ forum. No I get nothing out of the forum... and it's the class association for the Capri 22. For the record the J/22 class association is http://www.j22.com/ Shnool, about the wing keel - there is a tradeoff in performance with that keel, correct? it's not as big as you might expect. But yes, the trade off is it crabs through a tack some.... once you are moving though it straightens out. But if you are planning on launching and retrieving a lot... the wing is way easier. Snhool; Sailing has changed over the past 25 years. When I first started racing there was a fleet of 10-15 J-24's at our interclub racing events ( 6 clubs each takes a tun hosting a regatta during the season HRYRA) . Now the various PHRF fleets are lucky to 5-8 boats. The Pearson Ensign (23') seems to be having a rebirth here. At my club we have about 5-6 which race weekly. Capri 22 owner #297 Hershey The J22 has risen in value over the last few years, but that will change, with the introduction of the J70. So I suggest going for more comfort, wing keel, and at half the price. Unless your planning on racing, you can find a better value than the J/22. Its a great boat, but you pay a premium because its such a popular one design class. That said, I think the J/22 days are numbered, and the premium will slowly start decreasing as the J/70, Viper, VX, et al start growing. They guys I know who seriously raced J/22's are already starting to move away. I think the average J22 is closely matched in price to a Capri 22. When you start adding new sails, slick underbody treatments, latest greatest race set ups on deck, the price of the J boats goes up. That said, there are plenty of non slick J22s around if racing isn't the primary use of the boat. Then again, if racing isn't the primary objective, the Capri offers a lot of bang for the buck. As for the new j70 or others to create a weakening demand for the j22, I'm not so sure. In the past 30 or so years that the boat has been around, there have been plenty of new comers. Still, maybe the top end of the sport will gravitate to the newer boats. But not so much at the local club. The beauty of a J22 is it allows top level racing on a beer can budget. You don't need six figure pockets to race a J22 and win. The J22 will remain a popular one design class as it is so much cheaper than the J70. The popularity of this class will keep its value up and make it much easier to sell. I would pick the J22 without hesitation. Top Contributors this Month |
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Catalina Capri 22. If we move a notch or two down in our performance expectations and a notch or two up in terms of comfort we would come out right at the new Capri 22 by Catalina. Designed by the in-house Catalina team, the new 22 replaces the old Capri 22. The changes are significant. This is not one of those cosmetic redesign jobs.
Inducted into the US Sailing Hall of Fame, the Catalina 22 is one of the most popular trailer sailers in the world. (AHunt, CC) In its 10th anniversary issue in 1980, Sail magazine named the Catalina 22 the boat that had represented the breakthrough in trailer/cruisers in those 10 years. There is no denying the popularity of the Catalina 22 ...
Wing keel (most sold) and another shoal draft fin version available.(shoal draft versions have a different rudder) Shoal draft: 2.5'/.76m Tall rig: I: 29.0'/8.84m J: 8.16'/2.49m P: 28.0'/8.53m E: 9.75'/2.97m
The Capri 22 is a outstanding daysailor in protected waters, but even in San Diego Harbor, we''d take a wave over the bow (and into the cockpit) occasionally. If there''s a fleet of Capri 22s (15-20)where you live that race regularly, I''d consider racing one design with them. I think you''ll have a lot more fun.
Catalina 22 Capri OWNER PHOTO: "Bella Barchetta", Half Moon Bay, CA. Known for its sweet sailing performance in nearly all conditions, the Catalina Capri 22 has been winning sailors since its introduction. The Capri 22 is more comfortable, safer at sea and easier to maintain than any boat in its class.
Catalina Capri 22 is a 22′ 0″ / 6.7 m monohull sailboat designed by Gary Mull and built by Catalina Yachts starting in 1984.
Operational history In a 2010 review Steve Henkel wrote, "the Capri 22 was designed to be a light, fast family boat with an emphasis on daysailing and fleet local racing. One main parameter in conceiving the Capri line was to produce a very well-finished boat for a reasonable price.
http://www.GetWetSailing.com/capri-22-sailboat-review/ Does a Review of the Capri 22 Sailboat. Read the post for more information.
The Capri 22 is basically a larger cockpit, more sail controls, more sail area, faster sailing boat, with none of the drawbacks of the swing keel. The wing is the compromise boat for trailerability, and still points quite well. The Fin is an excellent sailor, points like mad, and generally is the wing model with slightly more point, speed, and ...
The CATALINA 22 SPORT was released in 2003. (Originally called the CAPRI 22 swing keel.) From a new "fairer" mold though the hull design is the same as the original CATALINA 22. Thanks to former Catalina dealer Joe Rose and a number of others for providing additional information.
I guess if one is looking at the Cat 22 Mark 2, the capri isn't wider.....in fact, the Mark 2 is wider by a couple of inches. The Capri, however, is 6" wider than the traditional Cat 22. because of the shape of the cabins, the capri looks much wider than that.u000bu000bBrad. S.
Catalina Capri 22 - pre-2001 versus post-2001 Jump to Latest 11K views 1 reply 2 participants last post by SHNOOL Aug 3, 2011 C charli3h Discussion starter 1 post · Joined 2009 #1 · Sep 11, 2010 Howdy folks, I have read that the catalina capri 22 underwent a fairly major re-design in 2001. Can anyone confirm this?
Catalina 22 Review. The Catalina 22 is the most commercially successful sailboat of all time and is one of the 5 inaugural members of the American Sailboat Hall of Fame. Frank Butler of Catalina Yachts designed the Catalina 22, which was Catalina's first production boat. Since 1969, Catalina Yachts has built and sold over 16,000 Catalina 22s.
Catalina 22 Capri. Phone: 1-800-270-2903. Price: Call for Price. Year: NEW. LOA: 24′ 8″. Location: Factory Order. View Specifications. Known for its sweet sailing performance in nearly all conditions, the Catalina Capri 22 has been winning sailors since it's introduction. The Capri 22 is more comfortable, safer at sea and easier to ...
8,750 1,013 Honolulu Sep 13, 2012 #9 Capri 22 ? My opinion is they aren't bad for what they are - inexpensive daysailers for fairly protected waters but they aren't performance sailboats by any measure, and the benchmark standard American 22 foot performance keelboat ( the J/22) will out sail it in every possible condition, including resale value.
Join Date: Dec 2020. Posts: 1,428. Catalina 22 Capri. I've made my first sailboat decision. I've decided to start with a Catalina 22, hopefully a Capri with fin keel. I'll forget about my Bahamas plans for a few years and just focus on gaining sailing experience. I believe a Capri will do the job. In the meantime, I'll keep on learning of course.
The Capri 22 (designed in 1984) is a fractional rigged boat manufactured by Catalina as a racer/cruiser. The forestay does not go to the stop of the mast, but only 3/4 - 7/8 of the way. Sailboats with fractional rigs usually have a bendable mast and an adjustable backstay which allows one to bend the mast, thus flattening and depowering the mainsail.
The rating is simply indicative of the lack of speed the Capri 22 shows. the design did not transfer well form the 25-a much faster, better boat! You will get crushed by Tuna 20s, J-24s and Ranger 26s.
Roller Furling: CP-22, Yes; S-20, No. Further to my previous: Roller furling is legal for one design on a Capri 22 and not on a Santana 20, so you're going to find a lot more Capri 22's with roller furling, more RF sails out there etc. Roller furling is the best thing going for a single hand sailor. Both are great boats, but the comfort factor ...
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J22 vs Capri 22. I own a 2002 Capri 22 and think it's a great boat. The J22 is also and will rate somewhat faster but the Capri 22 is definitely a better value and more accomodating on the interior if you plan to do anything but race. Here is a link to my review of the boat.