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Catalina 42 Mk I and Mk II

One of the most successful large boats ever built, the catalina 42 offers good looks, comfortable accommodations, and decent sailing ability at a low price..

Under the guidance of Frank Butler, who founded the company in 1969, Catalina Yachts’ philosophy is to offer “as much boat for the money as possible.” The boats are relatively well made and reasonably contemporary in their designs.

Butler is able to build boats that are less expensive than similarly sized vessels by focusing on several areas: a) economy of scale; because it builds so many boats, Catalina can get a better price than smaller builders on diesel engines and just about any other equipment; b) a refusal to spend money on advertising, which can translate to a 5% to 10% savings in the cost of each boat, and c) installation of less expensive gear than is found on other boats. It’s likely, too, that the Southern California labor pool works for less than workers in, say, the Pacific Northwest or Northeast.

Catalina’s objective is to price its boats 15% to 20% below its major competitors—Hunter and Beneteau. All three are high-volume builders that move boats through the production line as quickly as possible, hence the opportunity for glitches here and there, most of which are seldom serious, but can be vexing.

The Catalina 42 In the words of Gerry Douglas, Catalina’s chief engineer and designer for the past 24 years, “The Catalina 42 is a rather simple, sturdy boat. What you get is good quality, because the structure is there. If you want to make it more elaborate, you can take it as far as you want to go.”

Introduced in 1989, the Catalina 42 was originally envisioned as a 40-footer.

“We followed in the footsteps of the designs for the 36- and 38-footers, which were very successful, then stretched this two feet to allow room for the swim platform,” he said.

“One objective was to build a three-stateroom boat,” the first of its size introduced by an American production builder, Douglas said.

Two versions of the Catalina 42 have been built, each in a two-or three-stateroom configuration. The Mark I (hulls #1-477) was produced until February 1995, when the Mark II, which is still in production, was introduced. More than 670 have been built, evenly divided between the two- and three-stateroom models.

“The design of the Mark II was influenced somewhat by the Europeans,” Douglas said, referring to the contemporary, rounded stern and modifications to the cockpit.

Just about everything else—the hull, deck, accessories, auxiliary engine and standing rigging—are virtually identical in both the MK 1 and MK 11.

Though marketing literature indicates that the Mark II, which displaces 20,500 lbs. on a 36′ waterline, is 2,500 lbs. heavier than its predecessor, that apparently isn’t the case.

“Our mistake,” Douglas said. “The Mark I was not that light (18,000 lbs.).”

“Two requirements,” he said, “were that the shape have lots of volume but still be slippery. She’s finer forward than her predecessors, has a straight run aft and is relatively flat at the keel. The skeg is reminiscent of that on the Catalina 34 and 36.”

Owners say that they feel the skeg improves tracking and stiffens her while pounding to weather.

The keel is trapezoidal—parallel at top and bottom. The first shoal draft boats have a wing on the 4′ 10″ keel and a rather short rudder. Later models have a 6′ fin keel, but the same rudder. Ballast in each is 8,300 lbs.

When the MK II was launched, it was given a deeper, high-aspect, semi-elliptical rudder. Owners who retrofitted the deeper rudder reported improved handling and less pressure on the helm.

“Some owners mistake the pressure on the wheel with the shorter rudder as being weather helm but it’s really only more pressure on the rudder and skeg,” Douglas said.

In any case, owners recommend the deep rudder.

The high-aspect ratio sailplan carries 797 sq. ft. of sail. The mast is an anodized NG80 Isomat with double spreaders that are swept aft 17°.

Standing rigging is 3/8″ wire for the backstay, forestay, upper and lower shrouds, and 5/16″ wire for the lower shrouds. Running rigging includes halyards that are 1/2″ braid, and the mainsheet and genoa sheet are 1/2″ Dacron. Owners of 10-year- old boats report the rig and rigging to be in good condition.

Early boats were equipped with a Seafurl 3250 furler. Newer models are equipped with a Schaefer 3100.

As one dealer told us, “The benefit of the rig is that it’s simple. Once it’s up and tuned, it can be ignored.”

The rig was not designed to be tuned while underway.

“The addition of an adjustable backstay to increase headstay tension reduces the tension on the shrouds created by the spreaders, and could result in the mast failing, though we’ve never had that occur,” Douglas said. Running backstays could counterbalance the risk, “but that’s more equipment than our owners want.”

Several owners surveyed have added inner forestays for offshore use. “There’s no downside to that except the possible need to add running backstays,” Douglas said.

Performance Based on Douglas’ polar predictions, a 42 equipped with a fin keel, radial spinnaker and 155% genoa will have sluggish performance in winds of less than 5 knots, but still sail to her rating.

The polars indicate 4.5 knots of boat speed in 6 knots of wind sailing at 47° to true wind; in 10 knots of wind she should sail at 6 knots at 45° to true wind. Maximum downwind performance is in 16-20 knots of wind sailing at 120°-135°, when speed reaches 9 knots.

Most owners rate upwind and downwind performance as above average to excellent when compared to boats of similar size.

Both speed and pointing ability can be improved with the deep fin keel, higher-priced sails, and replacement of the furler with a headfoil.

The maximum sheeting angle is 11-1/2° degrees, which allows pointing to within 32° of apparent wind when hard on the breeze.

Perhaps one of the most functional additions to Catalina’s equipment lists are sheet stoppers, which allow halyards to be led aft to the bridge deck without having a winch for each line. This keeps crew off the deck at night or in heavy seas, and reduces the amount of deck clutter and amount of weight attached to the mast. The internal halyards run aft through Garhauer turning blocks to Garhauer sheet stoppers and two-speed self-tailing Lewmar 40 winches atop the bridge deck; winches were upgraded to Lewmar 42s with the Mark II model.

The 6:1 purchase mainsheet is on a traveler located forward of the main companionway, and controls for a solid Garhauer vang are led to the cockpit.

Genoa sheets are led aft through Garhauer turning blocks mounted on the toerail where they are out of the way and provide better sheeting angles for offwind sailing; a short section of T-track on the cabintop provides closer sheeting angles for small headsails. The primary winches are two-speed self-tailing Lewmar 54s, which replaced Lewmar 52s on the Mark I.

Two serious sailors, a singlehander in San Francisco and an owner who sails a fully crewed boat in Lake Pontchartrain, provided additional insight.

Bob Maher told us, “In 1997 the boat was the boat-of-the-year in the spinnaker class based upon a 12-race schedule, and the same year took first in the Lake Pontchartrain Racing Circuit Cruiser-Racer division with four firsts and a fourth. Typical conditions during the winter are 10-25 knots winds and 4-5 foot seas.

“On one Pensacola race we covered the distance of 101 miles in 12 hours and 15 minutes.

“In order to be competitive in the light air of summer we lengthened the spinnaker pole by one foot, which allowed for a larger spinnaker and genoa. This made the boat competitive in lighter air but under 5 knots we don’t do well against lighter boats like the Olson 30. Our PHRF is 96.”

In most areas, a stock Catalina 42 rates about 105.

Doug McClaflin finished first in the Singlehanded Farallones race, a 58-mile round trip event held outside the Golden Gate Bridge. Often sailed in a punishing northwester, this year’s race was held in 15- to 20-knot southerlies with 6′ to 8′ seas.

“She does well on reaches and in heavy air—18-plus knots, but she’s not good in light air racing,” he told us. Sailing with a fully battened Dacron mainsail and headsail on a furler, “I carried the 150% genoa up to 22 knots and averaged 8 knots over the ground.”

Most owners said they tuck in a reef when wind speed exceeds 18 knots, which balances the boat and eases the helm. All reported that she stiffens at 10°-15° of heel, and an oft-repeated comment was, “I can’t get the rail in the water.”

“With the sails properly trimmed she sails well with an Autohelm 6000, which doesn’t work very hard,” was a comment echoed by several owners.

One Seattle sailor, who owned Mark I hull #240 and now owns Mark II hull #498, said the primary difference between the two models is in the stern.

“The Mark II has a fatter section aft, and is more buoyant,” John Spring told us. “When I first started sailing the Mark II it seemed heavier to steer and the bow seemed to dive into the water. It doesn’t hobbyhorse. I’m just sitting higher than in the old boat, more like a center cockpit model, and it’s taken a year to adjust to the difference.”

Spring also replaced the factory sails with North 3DL sails, “which give me better shape and performance. My only complaint is that Catalina only gives a $1,000 allowance if a buyer doesn’t use factory sails.”

Construction The hull is solid fiberglass. The ABS-approved lamination schedule consists of skin coats of 2-ounce mat and 7.5-ounce cloth. From the centerline to 6″ above the molded bootstripe are eight alternating layers of mat and roving in weights ranging from 1.5 to 21.7 ounces, all of which are overlapped 6″. Additional support on the centerline is provided by a 50″ wide strip of 24-ounce Promat running the length of the hull.

Above the waterline are 11 overlapping layers of mat, roving and Coremat in 1.5- to 21.7-ounce weights.

Douglas says hull thickness at the keel is 1-3/8″ to 1-1/2″, 5/8″ to 3/4″ at the turn of the bilge, and 1/2″ to 9/16″ at the sheer.

Since 1995 the company has been using vinylester resin in the barrier coat to protect against blisters, but has nonetheless suffered its share of blister problems.

Less than 10% of survey respondents reported blisters. One said minor repairs were made to “six to seven pimple-sized blisters repaired at a cost of $30 each.” Another reported blisters covering 60% of the bottom. Because osmotic blistering is covered on a prorated basis under the Catalina warranty, most repairs were made at factory expense.

The deck lay-up schedule is similar to the hull, though it is cored with a combination of 1/2″ marine plywood (where deck hardware is installed) and 3/4″ end grain balsa.

Hull rigidity is provided by a fiberglass pan bonded to the hull at the sheer by 1/2″ thick, four-ply marine plywood glassed between the hull and liner, which is C-clamped in place until cured. The pan also incorporates the cabin sole and berth foundations. Butler, one of the early proponents of pans, credits this development with dramatically reducing construction costs.

The hull-deck joint is an external flange bonded with fiberglass-reinforced polyester, then through-bolted on 8″ centers with 1/4″ stainless steel fasteners. The seam is covered by an aluminum rubrail attached on 3″ centers that is covered with a vinyl insert. Only one survey respondent reported a leak at the hull-deck seam.

Though we advocate the use of motor mounts that are through bolted or threaded into steel plates, Douglas defends the use of lag bolts.

“We bed the engine bolts in a 3/8” thick molded glass pan that is filled with hardwood, and use 6″ long screws to secure the engine. I don’t think that the engine bed would fail if the boat was upside down. We’ve never had a problem,” he said.

Depending on who you query, Catalina yachts are either a) cheap, or b) a good value.

Jerry Edwards, a Seattle surveyor with Reisner, McEven and Associates, Inc., who is familiar with the 42 told PS, “I think the construction of the 42 is better than some of the other Catalina boats and superior to many other production builders.”

Catalina owners understand they are buying the boating equivalent of a Chevrolet; a typical comment is: “We know we’re not buying a Swan or Hinckley.”

On Deck Aside from the change in the transom, the primary difference between the MK I and MK II is the size and arrangement of the cockpits.

The Mark I’s cockpit seats are 6′ 8″ long. Neither seat opens to access spaces belowdecks. In the aft starboard corner there is a 40″ wide and deep compartment that will hold an inflatable dinghy and miscellaneous gear. The port corner has a propane bottle locker that vents overboard.

The swim platform incorporates a five-step stainless steel ladder lashed to the stern pulpit; it extends into the water a long way, farther than most, which is good.

The Edson pedestal and 44″ stainless steel destroyer style wheel are mounted well aft, so are not impediments to movement about the cockpit, except when entering or exiting via the cutout in the stern rail.

The cockpit in the Mark II, by comparison, presents more comfortable lounging arrangements and better access to stowage.

Its seats are the same length as the MK I. There are two “observation seats” fitted into the corners of the stern pulpit.

A 48″ drop-leaf table is mounted in the center of the cockpit forward of the binnacle. A stainless steel frame provides a sturdy home for the table and a footrail for crew to brace their feet when heeled. Though it’s a nice touch, we’d rather have a removable table and wide open cockpit when underway, especially when jibing a spinnaker.

Stowage in the port and starboard seat lockers are large enough to hold a deflated dinghy, dock lines and miscellaneous gear; the starboard one also has a large shelf that holds an outboard motor, barbecue and the like—a much-preferred arrangement to hanging them off the stern pulpit. A propane locker is located in the deck aft of the primary winches.

A removable seat in the transom replaces the cutout in the Mark I, though one can step on and over it to get to the swim platform.

Even with a dodger, movement forward is unobstructed on the 24″ sidedecks. The 6’ teak handrails on the cabintop have been replaced with stainless steel handrails.

The anchor windlass is located in a locker so the only potential toe stubbers forward of the mast are three Lewmar hatches.

Accommodations Even with a 36′ waterline and 13′ 10″ beam, Douglas has crammed an impressive amount of living space in the 42. Many owners indicated that the downside to the large interior volume is a dearth of stowage.

The two-stateroom model has an aft stateroom in the starboard quarter, a smallish head forward of it that’s about 38″ square, a galley in the port quarter, opposing settees amidships, and a nav station to starboard with swing-out seat and large table.

The master stateroom in both models has a Pullman-style berth forward of the saloon. The berth measures 72″ on the centerline, 52″ wide at the shoulder and 43″ at the foot. The skipper’s head is in the bow. It is 6′ 5″ long and 6′ 2″ wide at counter height, and has 6′ of headroom.

In the three-cabin arrangement, there are two mirror-image aft staterooms and the galley is amidships opposite the dinette.

The navigator is shortchanged in the three-cabin arrangement. He faces aft on a much smaller working surface while seated on the end of the port settee.

Each of the aft staterooms have 6′ of headroom, a 7′ long double berth, reading lights mounted on the hull, and a hanging locker. Light and ventilation are provided by ports in the hull and in the cockpit footwell.

The primary advantage of the two-stateroom model is the additional storage in the galley and in the port quarter behind it. This cavernous space is equipped with shelves large enough for installation of a heater, inverter, refrigeration and for other stuff such as tools. It also provides good access to the steering system.

Regardless of its location, the galley provides large working surfaces on countertops now constructed of fiberglass GraniCoat, a Corian lookalike. Early models had Formica-type coverings.

Though working surfaces are nearly the same size, galley stowage on the three-cabin model has been reduced significantly by the loss of the pantry. It will be a challenge to find space for larger pots and pans. The two stateroom model also has a small hinged countertop.

Both models have a three burner Princess Stove with oven and broiler, twin stainless steel sinks, and Groehe faucets for hot and cold water.

The dinette in both models seats six to eight adults, and converts to a 80″ x 66″ double berth.

The cushions are mounted on plywood boards covering storage areas below the settees, which prompted one skipper to complain that they are heavy and cumbersome. They are especially risky if they should come loose with the boat heeled, which one owner said was a problem.

Other Considerations As the boat has evolved during its 10-year production run, a number of small improvements have been made. Articulating halogen lights in the saloon have replaced cheaper fixtures. Doors and drawers that flew open underway on older models have positive latches and roller bearing slides.

The boat is well ventilated and lighted by Lewmar hatches located in all living areas and in the heads, and hatches and fixed portlights are covered by bug and privacy screens.

The 39-gallon fuel capacity is adequate for short cruising but distance cruisers have added tankage below the cabin sole. Two plastic water tanks are located below the sole, and there are plastic holding tanks under the aft berth and the Pullman berth. Except for the aft holding tank, they are easily accessible.

The engine is accessible from four sides. A small hatch in the starboard cabin leads to the oil filter. The companionway stairway reveals the front, and removable panels in the galley access the port side and aft end of the Yanmar 50.

Wiring is color coded, and newer boats have tinned connections.

Conclusion The well-maintained Mark I’s we inspected looked as good as the newer Mark IIs. There were no signs of gelcoat crazing. Owners we talked to were less concerned with performance and more interested in the design and decor below.

Most owners are very satisfied with quality of construction, though one owner complained that his hull flexes in 4’ seas and has had numerous problems with electrical and plumbing installations.

Douglas says the company has been unfairly criticized.

“We may not use Harken, but Garhauer guarantees its gear for 10 years, and Bill Felgenhauer returns phone calls. You’ll find Lewmar, Perko, Rule, Schaefer and Yanmar brands on our boats, for example, not some knock-off product manufactured overseas.”

A late model Mark I sells for $120,000-$130,000, a newer Mark II for $140,000-$145,000 depending upon equipment. Base price of the new Mark II is $151,000-$171,000 including engine and sails, depending upon cabin configuration and factory installed options.

Contact- Catalina Yachts, 21200 Victory Boulevard, Woodland Hills, CA, 91367; 818/884-7700.

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Catalina 42 Mkii – Boat Review and Video Tour

Catalina 42 MkII Boat Review from the Foster Journey (1)

The Catalina 42 was our first look at a sailboat over 40 feet and our first look at one of the Catalina Yachts in this size range. Previously, we explored the Beneteau 361 and the Catalina 350 , but we felt their space limitations when considering them as long-term cruising sailboats. The Catalina 42 is a classic, best-selling sailboat from Catalina Yachts, but it comes in two versions: Catalina 42 and Catalina 42 MkII.

The next option was to look at a sailboat in the low 40-foot range, and Josh from Little Yacht Sales was more than willing to guide us along.

Watch this boat review video to see what you think, and we’ll share some facts about the Catalina 42 Mkii below.

*This post contains Amazon affiliate links, which help us fund our journey at no cost to you.

About the Catalina 42 Mkii

The Catalina 42 we looked at is a the two-cabin centerline owner’s berth version. It’s 43’2″ overall in length, and 13’10” wide (beam).

The forward cabin is the “owner’s suite”. It features a pedestal berth flanked by two small settees. There are two hanging lockers and five drawers under the bed. The owner’s cabin also has private access to the forward head.

The salon and galley are both spacious and provide ample storage in lockers and shelves. The galley highlights 10 cabinets, a top and side loading icebox, and an almost 360-degree countertop with the collapsable counter extension.

The aft cabin only spans half of the boat but features a fair double-sized bed, hanging locker, and shelf space.

On the port side, just beyond the galley, there is mechanical access and plenty of utility space for additional gear, tools, washing machine, or portable freezer (such as the Engel or Dometic , Amazon paid link ).

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Pros and Cons of the Catalina 42

We’re thinking of the boat in terms of a long-term cruise and with the option to sail open oceans for weeks at a time. Yes, we know she’s designed for coastal cruising, but on the chance, we’d want to cross the Atlantic on trade winds…would she be up to the task?

We do know plenty of Catalina 42 sailboats all around the world. So that’s a good sign.

Here’s a list of our pros and cons for this sailboat.

Pros	Cons
Storage Space Open deck space Secure cockpit for seaways Large salon and galley Solid construction Lead keel CE Rating A, all oceans Solid teak interior	Cockpit space for time at anchor Capsize screening above 2.0 Limited tank storage

This Boat in Our Journey

We seem to be gravitating toward Catalina Yachts in our search for the right sailboat. Probably because they have the comfort features and build quality that matches our needs within our budget.

Other mass-produced, affordable sailboats seem to either focus on comfort at the dock or speed for weekend races. Those are certainly nice features, but our journey is about freedom and not so much bay cruising or racing.

The Catalina 42 matches many of our needs, and may be the boat for us. However, we feel the following drawbacks are keeping us from immediately saying this is the one:

Aft cockpit feels a little tight for long-term living.
Capsize screening is a little too high for us (we’re inexperienced sailor, so we need more forgiveness from a boat).

Catalina 42 vs Catalina 42 mkii

Frank Butler, the founder of Catalina Yachts, used the philosophy: as much boat as possible for the money. Both the Catalina 42, and mark 2 version fit this mantra. But what’s the difference?

First off, the Catalina 42 is the first version, the mark 1. The first version of the Catalina 42 were hulls 1-477, which finished production in 1995. The Catalina 42 Mark 2 took immediate production in 1995 all the way through the end of its production and was replaced in 2016 by the Catalina 425.

The Catalina 42 mkii introduced a few key differences from the Catalina 42:

Rounded Stern
Larger swim platform and storage on transom
Yanmar Engine instead of Universal
New Rudder Design
Option of a two-stateroom layout
Extra cockpit stowage
Wing-keel became more common
Interior layout options

Catalina 42 Design Philosophy “The Catalina 42 is a rather simple, sturdy boat. What you get is good quality, because the structure is there. If you want to make it more elaborate, you can take it as far as you want to go…We followed in the footsteps of the designs for the 36- and 38-footers, which were very successful, then stretched this two feet to allow room for the swim platform.” – Gerry Douglas, Chief Design Engineer

What Do You Think About This Sailboat?

As always, if you’ve read this far, thanks so much! I’d love to hear your thoughts or questions about this sailboat.

5 responses to “Catalina 42 Mkii – Boat Review and Video Tour”

Such a nice boat!

It is a great boat, and one of our favorites so far with just enough space. Thanks for leaving a comment!

This boat looks so much bigger than the others you’ve looked at. Good luck in shopping!

Thanks, Kate. As I type this, we’re still shopping…and selling, but the sale is a story for an upcoming episode. I appreciate you leaving a comment here!

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Catalina 42 reviews, specs and more … (MKI & MKII)

Fin w/spade rudder

Masthead Sloop

41.86′ / 12.76m

36.00′ / 10.97m

13.83′ / 4.22m

797 ft / 74.04 m

6.00′ / 1.83m

20500 lbs./ 9299 kgs.

8300 lbs. / 3765 kgs.

17.09

40.49%

196.15

Nelson/Marek / Catalina

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1989

1995

477

Yanmar

4JHBE

Diesel

53.00′ / 16.15m

16.40′ / 5.00m

46.75′ / 14.25m

15.50′ / 4.72m

796.91 ft / 74.03 m

434.60 ft / 40.37 m

362.31 ft / 33.66 m

17.09

55.48′ / 16.91m

The CATALINA 42 MK I is an adaptation of an earlier racing hull designed by Nelson/Marek with a new deck and coachroof, interior and rig. A MK II versions was introduced in 1995 (hull #480).
Wing keel vers. draft: 1.47m/4.83′
It is thought that more than 1000 CATALINA 42’s have been built (MKI & MKII), making it one of the most popular sailboats in this size range ever!

Fin w/spade rudder

Masthead Sloop

41.86′ / 12.76m

36.00′ / 10.97m

13.83′ / 4.22m

797 ft / 74.04 m

6.67′ / 2.03m

20500 lbs./ 9299 kgs.

8300 lbs. / 3765 kgs.

17.09

40.49%

196.15

Gerry Douglas

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Lead

1995

300

Yanmar

4JH2E

Diesel

138 gals. / 522 ltrs.

38 gals. / 144 ltrs.

53.00′ / 16.15m

16.42′ / 5.00m

46.75′ / 14.25m

15.50′ / 4.72m

797.44 ft / 74.08 m

435.13 ft / 40.42 m

362.31 ft / 33.66 m

17.10

55.49′ / 16.91m

Shallow draft wing keel version: 4.92’/1.5m
It is thought that more than 1000 CATALINA 42’s have been built (MKI & MKII), making it one of the most popular sailboats in this size range ever!

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CATALINA 42: A Modern Classic

The Catalina 42 was introduced in 1989 and was one of the first mass-produced American boats to feature both a sugar-scoop transom with a swim platform and a three-stateroom layout with two aft cabins under the cockpit. It was very much a response to similar boats that first appeared in Europe in the mid-1980s, but unlike its contemporaries it stayed in production for over 20 years. Over 1,000 were built, making it one of the most successful cruising sailboats of its size ever created.

Boats like this have long dominated the mass-production market, but what distinguishes the Catalina 42 from more modern boats is its moderation. Where many contemporary mass-production boats now have rather exaggerated shapes to maximize interior volume, the Catalina 42 has a much more balanced form. Its bow is well raked and has a clean entry, but its waterline is not too short. Its beam is carried well aft, but not excessively so, and tapers quite a bit at the transom, so the boat does not gripe too much sailing hard to windward. Freeboard is not too high, the coachroof lines are crisp, and the boat has very clean, handsome profile.

Performance under sail is crisp but amiable. The Catalina 42’s original hull was based on an old Nelson Merek racing design, and the boat is just fast enough and closewinded enough to win club races if appropriately handicapped (a PHRF rating of 105 is typical. It is relatively stiff–-it normally doesn’t heel much past 15 degrees–and can be pressed hard if you like. Loafing along in cruising mode, the boat trims out quite nicely and doesn’t need a lot of fiddling to keep moving well. During a month I once spent skippering a Catalina 42 in the West Indies in moderate tradewind conditions, I found I didn’t have to work hard to keep the boat sailing around 7 knots.

Many Catalina 42 owners have raced their boats hard. Here’s one sprinting round the buoys in Sydney Harbor

There were two keels available–a shoal-draft (4’10”) wing keel and a deeper (6’8″) straight fin keel–and the deeper one, of course, helps the boat point and track better. There are also two different rudders, both installed behind shallow partial skegs. On earlier Mark I boats (477 were built between 1989 and 1995) the rudder is rather short, and on the later Mark II boats it was replaced with a deeper, more elliptical foil that improves handling. On some Mark I boats the deeper rudder has been retrofitted.

Aside from the rudder, the only real difference between the two versions of the boat is that the Mark II has a rounder transom and more cockpit storage, plus a fixed, rather than collapsible, cockpit table. Otherwise, the cockpit on both boats is quite roomy and comfortable with 6’8″ long seats that are great for stretching out on. The one drawback to the large cockpit is that the mid-boom mainsheet is led to the coachroof and cannot be reached by the helmsman. Without an effective autopilot, it is therefore not easy to singlehand this boat, though it is quite easy to sail doublehanded.

Example of a cockpit on a more recent Catalina 42

The Catalina 42 was very much a mass-produced boat and was constructed accordingly. The hulls are solid hand-laid fiberglass and though there have been some reports of blisters, both before and after Catalina started applying vinylester barrier coats in 1995, most blistered hulls were repaired at Catalina’s expense. The hull is stiffened with a large molded fiberglass liner/pan that incorporates furniture foundations as well as the cabin sole. The liner, as on many mass-produced boats, does limit interior access to the hull. Also some storage compartments are not segregated from the space behind the liner, so gear can get lost back there if you’re not careful.

The deck is balsa-cored with plywood substituted in places where deck hardware is installed; the deck joint is of the shoebox type, bonded with adhesive sealant and through-bolted with stainless-steel fasteners on 8-inch centers. Quality overall is good compared to most other mass-produced boats. Though it was designed primarily for coastal cruising, several Catalina 42s have been used for bluewater cruising in tropical and middle latitudes. On many of these bluewater boats, aside from the usual systems upgrades, the only significant modifications have been the addition of extra fuel tanks and handholds below.

There are three different accommodations plans. The original three-stateroom layout, the only one installed in the first 238 hulls, can comfortably sleep three couples (or a couple and a large bunch of kids who don’t mind sharing double berths) for a reasonably long period of time. During my month-long West Indian cruise I shared this layout with five other people. We were a bit pressed for storage space, but we were definitely happy campers. Bulkier, more modern three-stateroom boats in this size range may offer the illusion of more space, but in practice it usually doesn’t amount to anything terribly useful.

The saloon looking forward on a three-cabin boat

Port aft cabin on a three-cabin boat

There are also two two-stateroom plans, one with a Pullman double berth forward (as in the three-stateroom layout), the other with a centerline island double. To my mind, the Pullman layout is superior. It affords more storage space and a larger forward head with a separate shower stall, plus the berth itself is a bit farther aft and can be fit more easily with a leecloth, thus is more likely to be habitable in a seaway. The biggest advantage of the two-stateroom layout, regardless of which forward stateroom you prefer, is the super-sized galley aft with a cavernous pantry space that is great for systems installations and serious gear storage.

The saloon looking forward on a two-cabin boat

Pullman berth in the forward cabin

Gerry Douglas, Catalina’s inhouse design maven, considers the Catalina 42 one of his better efforts, and I’m inclined to agree with him. It is one of the best cruising sailboats of its type ever produced in North America and represents an excellent value. The youngest examples compare well to current models and sell at a premium. Older examples are very attractively priced and make great project boats, both because the 42 offers a reasonably sound foundation on which to build and because Catalina, unlike many builders, works hard to support owners of older boats.

Specifications

LOA 41’10”

LWL 36’0″

Beam 13’10”

–Shoal wing keel 4’10”

–Deep fin keel 6’8″

Ballast (both keels) 8,300 lbs.

Displacement 22,500 lbs.

Sail area (100% foretriangle) 797 sq.ft.

Fuel 46 gal. Water

–3-cabin layout 131 gal.

–2 cabin layouts 111 gal.

D/L ratio 215

SA/D ratio 15.97

Comfort ratio 27.65

Capsize screening 1.95

Nominal hull speed 9.3 knots

Typical asking prices $85K – $230K

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Catana 42: Review and test

There is a plethora of new cruising catamarans being built today and the catana 42 is just one challenging the perceived wisdom in this field, most notably boasting twin centreboards..

This is an excerpt from Duncan Kent’s full review which can be found in Sailing Today 206, on sale Thursday 24th April.

Admittedly, the majority of new-to-market catamarans are intended for charter, but a large number are also being bought by prospective bluewater cruisers who yearn for the space and pace of a multihull.

The new ‘baby’ of the Catana fleet, the 42, could never be termed small. She has a positively voluminous interior that offers an ideal ‘living afloat’ platform for the whole family. She is also quite a bit more refined than many of the more basic cats on the market, primarily built for charter use.

Catanas have two immediately noticeable differences from other production cruising cats – daggerboards and negatively-cambered (tilted in at the top), flared hulls with no keels. But they also look good, thanks to the traditional deckline sheer, streamline coachroof and slightly raked, double-headed rig. All these innovations add up to a vessel that not only looks and feels luxurious, but performs almost as well as a bona fide racing multihull – even upwind!

She is designed primarily as a fractional sloop, but with the popular option of a second forestay. The standard stay terminates on the deck beam and carries a 120 per cent working genoa. The outer stay is for a gennaker and terminates at the end of a short bowsprit. Both sport furlers, with sheets and furling lines led aft to winches by the helms.

Her daggerboards are a rare feature on modern cruising cats. Although they add a little extra faff when tacking, they make a huge difference to her upwind performance, allowing her to point some 38º to 40º off the apparent wind, rather than the more common 50º+. For downwind sailing they offer the option of lifting both halfway to reduce wetted surface drag for extra speed. Also, in very heavy seas lifting them up completely means her flat-bottomed hulls will simply skid sideways when beam-on to large waves, rather than trip over their keels as others might.

I’m slowly becoming drawn towards catamarans for cruising, despite still not quite liking the ‘feel’ of them when going upwind. I’ve now tried most of the French-built production models and I have to say that the Catanas appear to have the best performance under sail – thanks largely to their daggerboards and sculpted hulls.

The 42 feels a little compressed, as if they’ve tried to squeeze too much into a small space, and the cabins tend to be somewhat utilitarian. I’m not saying they aren’t comfy, roomy and bright – it’s just that climbing 3ft up to slide into them feels like clambering into a bunk on a ferry.

Saying that, the Owner’s model has a great heads in the entire port forepeak and a really well-appointed deck saloon, a top priority for living aboard.

Tech specs:

Price: From £375,000 (€1 = £0.84) Sailaway price: From £425,000

LOA: 41ft 3in (12.6m) LWL: 40ft 7in (12.4m) Beam: 22ft 7in (6.9m) Draught: (Boards up): 2ft 7in (0.8m) (Boards down): 8ft 10in (2.7m) Displacement: 19,580lb (8,900kg) Upwind sail area (main/genoa): 1,206sqft (112m²) Fuel: 95gal (432ltr) Water: 148gal (673ltr) Berths: 6 or 8 Engine: 2 x 30hp Volvo D1-30 Power train: Sail drives with fixed 2-blade props (3-blade optional) Designer: Christoph Barreau Builder: Catana Catamarans UK supplier: Robert Underwood Multihulls 01621 784199 www.rumulti.com

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OVERVIEW - Performance, ease of handling and a superior finish There are two types of cruising sailors: those who plod about on heeling monohulls, and those who reach away on level-deck catamarans. In the increasingly popular realms of cruising cats, many of which call the Pacific home, the Catanas have gained a keen following.

The prestige production catamarans from France feature exotics in their construction, advanced hull designs, clever sailing controls and great living spaces. Speed is their mantra, not only reaching and running, but also in light airs where other production cats -- let alone heavy monos -- are forced to start their engines. Thanks to their retractable daggerboards, Catanas tend to go to windward better than other cats, too.

The Catana 42 is the smallest cat in the range that currently tops out at 70 feet on the drawing board. The second-biggest model, and an impressive cat by any measure, the 59 has also arrived in Australia. More on that one soon.

Released about three years ago, the 42 is based on the former 41 and the extra waterline furthers its performance under sail. The sleek coachroof adds to the aerodynamics, while the tall hulls defy their 'footprint', offering plenty of living and headroom throughout.

David Renouf, from the Catana importers Multihull Solutions, which has a new office on Pittwater, was the world’s biggest Catana dealer when he was based in San Diego. He makes the point that even in a good year, the French yard builds only 30 or so cats. So it’s a more boutique than run-of-the-mill French production builder.

Owners tend to be serious around-the-world sailors, Renouf explains, and pickups in Europe are quite common. Cruising couples typically sell the house, hit the ocean road for four or five years, then return to buy their retirement home on terra firma. The other buyer is the mid-life-crisis guy who heads out into the wide blue yonder with his pre-teen kids for a couple of years’ sabbatical. In the Catana 42, you certainly make the most of your time.

PRICE AND EQUIPMENT - Premium price and premium product There wasn’t a lot left wanting on the test boat, just a tender, watermaker, radar and probably sat-comms/Wifi/TV. Indeed, Multihull Solutions didn’t hold back on the upgrades. Sensibly, it also chose the Owner's Version with three cabins and two heads, whereby the entire port hull is given over to a couple. There is a Family Version with a second cabin in here and smaller head.

Leading French sailmaker Indences provided the upgraded wardrobe with fully-battened square-top main that stows in lazy jacks and bag without needing to remove the top batten. The main and genoa were cut from Spectra Hydranet for performance and longevity. A gennaker or screecher/Code Zero in Stormlite was bundled with the boat to improve reaching in those tropical airs. It’s set from the optional fitted bowsprit and there’s a dedicated furler and running rigging.

The engine was upgraded from the standard twin 30hp Volvo Pentas with Saildrives to 40hp models fitted with folding three-blade props and electric engine controls. The impressive navigation station had an upgraded Garmin electronics package with Navpilot remote among the kit, so you can ‘steer’ from inside the cat.

The four 80W solar panels on the hardtop and the additional two 80W panels on the coachroof should more than meet electrical demands. There was an extra 115A gel battery, a charger/inverter (feeds two GPOs) and LED transom and cockpit lights. Other deck gear upgrades included aluminium tender davits, canvas cockpit and cabin shade curtains and screens, gas struts on all deck hatches, and complete cockpit and sunpad cushions.

The saloon upholstery and vinyl liners were upgraded to Alcantara, blinds and insect screens were fitted, and the boat had a separate 60-litre freezer to complement the standard 130-litre fridge. Anchoring ground tackle, fenders and warps, safety gear and antifouling were included in the $895,000 sail-away price. This was a discount on the usual retail of $962,000 rrp at the time of writing. You still pay a premium, but the Catana is definitely a premium cat.

LAYOUT AND ACCOMMODATION - Designed for living and entertaining The deck gear and rigging on the Catana 42 is all first class: Facnor furlers, Spinlock clutches, Harken winches -- including an electric rewind model for hoisting the main and in and out trimming of the Code Zero -- and Whitlock rack-and-pinion mechanical steering for some degree of feel.

The two-pack painted aluminium mast and boom is a single-spreader double-diamond model and, as with all good modern-day cruising conveyances, all the lines (except headsail halyards) lead aft to the helms. Headsail sheets, furlers and daggerboard lift are immediately ahead of the leatherbound wheels, while the mainsheet, its halyard and reefing system, and topping lift are located centrally on the rear beam, where there’s the electric winch. The foresail halyards are controlled from a winch on the mast base.

The double mainsheet system gives complete control and eases the drama in gybes, while the reefing system was demonstrably simple, with Renouf putting in a reef then shaking it out in less than a minute from the helm. More on the sailing later.

On the bow, the Catana 42 has nice big tramps for hanging out -- albeit not as big as some -- and plenty of storage in compartments in each bow and either side of the recessed windlass for the self-stow anchor. Clip-out lifelines let you access the anchoring bridle.

The pulpit seats on the bows are complemented by moulded seats either side of the stick on the cabin front. Add the tramp and there are plenty of places to hangout up front. There are even sunpad cushions for the coachroof. Access along the side decks is nice and safe thanks to teak toerails, twin lifelines and concealed running rigging. Not that the cat’s deck teeters, mind you.

The cockpit is a beauty, nice and broad, with plenty of comfortable seats including flip-up helm seats with padded rails, from where you are afforded terrific views while steering. The other helm pedestals have Volvo engine-starts and throttles, windlass control and electric winch buttons, with Garmin nav data viewable nearby. Astern, the obligatory moulded steps lead to the water.

Mid-transom are teak seats and there’s storage in the twin underfloor cockpit lockers nearby. But the big dinette is the centrepiece, able to seat six with the addition of the supplied designer loose chairs. The weight-saving carbon and composite hardtop casts shade and has integrated grab rails, cockpit lights and scroll-down canvass side curtains.

With the aft galley opening up alongside, you are ready to serve at the al fresco setting. Clever clip-in cushions and flip-back fibreglass panels create a separate chaise lounge to starboard when you want to kick back with a book. Then the saloon calls. When not plotting your next port of call or autopilot steering from the big navigation station, from whence views are unfettered of the ocean road ahead, you will be cooking on the transverse galley up top where you want it.

The Corian counter space is generous so as to double as a servery and flanked by the fridge and separate freezer alongside a three-burner stove/oven. Although not included, a microwave could be fitted and powered by an upgraded inverter. The big aft opening widow and doors keep the internal dinette to starboard well connected. You can seat a family here and it also converts into a quasi berth,

With foam-cored top sides and floor, plus plenty of opening portlights, it’s not a stuffy saloon. Headroom throughout the boat is at least 6ft 2in (185cm) and all the companionways encourage easy thoroughfare. At which point you might notice the composite joinery that saves a claimed 35 per cent in weight over conventional joinery.

Interior designers Linea Concept deserve credit for the pleasant ambience and the fit and finish is certainly superior to mainstream French-built cats. With light timber and flooring, plenty of glass and portlights, you don’t feel like a stowaway stuck below decks. The escape hatches under the stairs leading down to the hull accommodation are CE requirements, but they also add novelty. Dangle a handline for dinner at the anchorage.

As touched on, owners get the run of the portside hull on this three cabin/two bathroom layout. There’s a large aft double bed, dressing area with stool and abundant storage for cruising clobber. The forward hull section features a large walk-in bathroom with enlarged vanity and shower stall atop the manual head. One might expect a separate shower and electric loo at this level.

The folding privacy doors over the companionways to the guest’s cabins, so they’re separated from the main saloon, are a nice touch. This way, kids can hit the hay while adults continue to party in the saloon. There are fore and aft double cabins, split by a communal bathroom with handheld shower, in the starboard hull. But we all know the best shower on a cruising boat is on deck.

HULL AND ENGINEERING - Advanced running surface and quiet motoring Designed by French naval architect Christophe Barreau, the Catana 42 features carbon fibre reinforcing in places like the bulkheads, roof and mast-foot area; a Kevlar-like Twaron aramid fibre below the waterline; vinylester resin to prevent osmosis; and foam-cored doors, floors and layup throughout.

The bows are distinctive, bulbed and tulip-shaped to reduce pitching, and fine to cut through the waves without pounding. Tilting outwards, the hulls provide stability beyond that of a traditional catamaran, Catana says. And with the weight out of the ends, the cat doesn’t drag its tail, even in light airs.

As the engines are outboard or aft of the main accommodation area, the Catana 42 is noticeably quiet underway. The reduced operating noise is also good news on the anchor, where you might need to run the engines for hot water or recharging after a big night. The engines are each fitted with an 80 amp alternator.

The external access hatches to the engines are large and each four-cylinder D2 40hp Volvo Penta is surrounding by oodles of servicing room. Owners can easily make at-a-glance engine checks, dip the oil, clear the raw-water strainers and/or fuel filters, and top up the coolant as needs be. The boat has been designed with mounting space for a generator, room for air-cons and a watermaker should you want it.

In standard guise, the Catana 42 carries 670 litres of water. The standard 55-litre holding tank was upgraded on the test boat with a second tank in the port hull. Thanks also to the solar panels, the boat is autonomous and you won’t need to keep it plugged into shore power, even with the fridge running.

ON THE WATER - Slippery cat streaks away The 42 has exceptionally high freeboard and tunnel clearance that will be welcome offshore and in heavy weather, especially when working to windward where cats can pound. With the daggerboards set, the Catana 42 can comfortably sail at 38 degrees or a tad less without being close hauled, Renouf says as we set sail.

Resin-infused and foam-cored, the hulls are strong but light. In any event, Catana claims its cats are unsinkable or, to put it another way, they float. Underway, the whole structure feels stiff, but without the inherent drumming of pure carbon-fibre hulls.

The 70 square metre main and 42 square metre genoa add to the alacrity. With around 20 knots of wind, the 42 was in its element. Reaching, there was a noticeable wake and wave pattern astern and, on the squirts, you could feel the jolt of acceleration. In seconds we were scurrying along at an easy 12 knots and climbing. To windward, we were holding 8-10 knots without trying hard.

Catana says the 42 is at least 30 per cent faster under sail than your average cruising yacht. During official sea trails, the factory says it cracked 20 knots before the breeze and 12 knots upwind. Renouf saw 19 knots on the 56-hour delivery ex-Mooloolaba to Sydney.

By any standard, this is a fast, exciting and comfortably level-deck cruising. The 42 is also a very dry cat when powered up and we love the vision from the outboard helms, although we concede some cruising cat buyers might prefer more weather protection.

VERDICT - Time and tide wait for no Catana With performance such a big part of the equation, and all the technology that goes along with that, you pay a premium for the Catanas. They aren’t quite as voluminous as other production cats built around static appeal, either. But underway, these are getaways that inspire.

In its class, the Catana 42 is a benchmark fast cruising catamaran and first-class ticket to explore the coast and wider Pacific. The cat will enrich your on-water experiences and let you see more of the good places and enjoy the good times while you’re out there. Sail right on past those cruising clunkers, give a friendly wave and reach your next destination while the rest of the fleet is still passage making.

Specifications: Priced as tested: $895,000 for demonstrator (discount on new boat with rrp of $962,000) Length: 12.58m Beam: 6.90m Draft: 0.80m boards up, 2.70m boards down Displacement unloaded: 8.9 tonnes Main Sail Area: 70 sqm Genoa Area: 42 sqm Gennaker: 60 sqm Water tank capacity: 670 litres Diesel tank capacity: 430 litres Holding tank: 110 litres Engines: 2 x 40hp Volvo D2 diesel

Boat Supplied By: Multihull Solutions Call Toll Free: 1300 855 338 (Aus) or 0508 685 847 (NZ) See www.multihullsolutions.com.au .

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19-12-2020, 08:51
	& sail a 42Mk2, and wondered if anyone has experience with ? Im US, and looking to taker her to the , Carib, and at least one hop across to the . Shes in great shape, has a CE A ocean rating, lead , stepped , and very comfortable on overnight trips... any insight would be terrific!

19-12-2020, 09:15
	and Caribe no problem. probably fine too, albeit it's a light . But no worse than many production used out there. I've sailed them, they kinda pound and flex a bit. One I managed in hit a rock at 5 knots and suffered $20-25k damage in 2004 $. The and cabinetry broke loose from the . Dont hit things! - Elmore Leonard

19-12-2020, 09:18

probably fine too, albeit it's a light . But no worse than many production used out there.
I've sailed them, they kinda pound and flex a bit. One I managed in hit a rock at 5 knots and suffered $20-25k damage in 2004 $. The and cabinetry broke loose from the .
Dont hit things!

19-12-2020, 13:26
Boat: Nonsuch 30	. I have a MkII and used to have a Bristol 455 which we did tens of thousands of miles with. The is not as stout as the Bristol but adequate for going to the and back. Probably better to have in the with the swim scoop.

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& sail a Catalina 42Mk2, and wondered if anyone has experience with ? Im US, and looking to taker her to the Bahamas, Carib, and at least one hop across to the Med. Shes in great shape, has a CE A ocean rating, lead keel, keel stepped , and very comfortable on overnight trips... any insight would be terrific!

20-12-2020, 14:33
Boat: Cheoy lee perry 48	and club verry good boat for coastal cruising and club in southern Australian waters and the east coast of ,the second one was purchased in Nelson nz having some 17k miles under her keel ,a full rerig plus new bearings plus a kiwi feathering prop ,crew of four ,owner plus friends most with experience ,Nelson to lord Howell ,balls pyramid etc 6.5 days almost 1k miles ,no worries ,lord Howell to ,217 miles best days run ,no worries ,Sydney to Adelaide 1k miles no worries ,many more cruises ,no worries v good boats. ⚓️⛵️

20-12-2020, 22:14
Boat: Catalina 42 MKII	. I took mine (hull 615) across the Atlantic in 2012 and into the Med. For an ocean crossing I offer a couple of suggestions. First, there are not enough handholds in the main - I added three; one between the door to the and the aft berth; another just beyond the , a third at the nav station. The is only about 40 gallons limiting the cruising range to a little over 200 miles, which could be a problem if there is large high pressure are surrounding the (no wind); I had plenty of when I approached those islands. Anyway, I carried four 5 gallon plastic containers of on the fore and six more on the swim platform. Always good to carry extra - siphon it into your tank, don't pour. Get a dingy small enough to fit on the fore - when you get to the Med you want your stern as open and accessible as possible because you will be required to Med moor (back up to the docks). BTW - don't listen to those that tell you the Catalina 42MK11 is too to cross the Atlantic. I was in 40+ kt winds, 25ft seas and took a complete knockdown that crushed flat against the . Other than dislodging the rub rail, the boat suffered no structural damage.

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Back in 2008, Catana launched their 41: This was good news because the yard, which had become focused on larger and larger models, was now looking at a much more reasonable-sized boat - and so was back in the spirit of the very first Catana. We are talking about a catamaran which is significantly lighter than its competitors of the same length: around 9 tons as opposed to 11.5 for the new Fountaine-Pajot, or 12.1 for the Lagoon 42. Note that these two boats however, are more aimed toward comfort, offering much higher volume. The Catana 41 is therefore a high-end unit, with high performance and recognized sea-keeping qualities. Two years after its launch, the shipyard reviewed the accommodation layout in the nacelle and for sail handling on deck. The 41 then became the 42. To date there have been about fifty examples built, and there are some available on the second hand market: at the time of writing, there are 5 currently being offered for sale.

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The Catalina 425 is an all-new design that assumes the position in the Catalina line held by the legendary Catalina 42. Although it is new and contemporary in styling it is designed to endure in function and aesthetics in the Catalina tradition. The 425 incorporates all the valued hallmark Catalina features; a functional spacious cockpit, a comfortable, carefully detailed interior and all the “5 Series” featured that have redefined the Catalina brand.

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As American production boatbuilding huddles on the sidelines, the builders of the homegrown, impressive Catalina 425 knock one through the uprights.

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The Catalina 425 is an excellent cruising boat that will carry you just about anywhere in comfort, safety and, yes, speed and style. She’s a worthy winner of a SAIL Best Boats award.

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GENERAL DIMENSIONS

Length Overall: 43′ 6″

Length of Hull: 41′ 8″

Length at Waterline: 39’ 1″

Beam: 13′ 8″

Distance from Waterline to Masthead*: 62′ 11″

(not inclluding lights and antennas)

Draft: 5′ 0″

Ballast: 7,700 lbs

Basic Weight: 19,100 lbs

Draft: 6′ 8″

Ballast: 6,700 lbs

Basic Weight: 18,100 lbs

RIG MEASUREMENTS

100% Foretriangle: 429 ft 2

Main by Measurement: 436 ft 2

Total w/100%: 865 ft 2

Sail Area – Displacement Wing Keel: 19.4

Sail Area – Displacement Fin Keel: 20

Standard Furling Main: 464.5 ft 2

Standard Jib Self Tacking: 398 ft 2

Optional Genoa 110%: 434 ft 2

Optional Genoa 135%: 538.5 ft 2

Optional Genoa 155%: 620 ft 2

Optional UPS Spinnaker: 922 ft 2

Optiona APC Spinnaker: 1223 ft 2

TANKS & CAPACITIES

Water: Forward 50 gal, Starboard 56 gal

Water Heater: 11 gal

Total Water: 117 gal

Sanitary Holding Tank: Fwd. 31 gal, Aft. 23 gal

Total Holding: 54 gal

Fuel: Primary Tank 62 gal, Optional Auxiliary Tank 18 gal

ENGINE & CONTROLS

Yanmar 4JH57CR, 57 mhp @3000RPM

Common Rail, Electronic Diesel

3 Blade Michigan MP3 18×14

1 1/4″ S.S. Shaft

Twin Edson Performance Pedestals with 32″ Stainless Wheels.

Single Lever Engine Controls on Starboard Cockpit Coaming.

WINDLASS & CHAIN

Quick Rider 1000 with 5/16″ Chainwheel Gypsy for 5/16″ High Test Gd 40

or BBB Gd 30 Chain and/or 1/2″ – 5/8″ Rope

Primary – 55ST EVO Lewmar

Cabin Top / Secondary – 45ST EVO Lewmar

All specifications are approximate and subject to change without notice.

Actual equipment also subject to change without notice.

STANDARD EQUIPMENT

Construction.

One-Piece Fiberglass Hull with End Grain Balsa Core Sandwich Construction Above the Waterline, and a Vinylester Integral Barrier to Resist Osmosis Blistering
One-Piece Fiberglass Deck with End Grain Balsa Core and Molded-In Diamond Pattern Non-Skid Surfaces Finished in Two-Tone White and Grey
One-Piece Fiberglass Deck Liner Finished in NonGlare Texture
One-Piece Molded Fiberglass Structural Grid
One-Piece Molded Fiberglass Hull Liner with Satin Finish
Lead Fin Keel with 316 Stainless Steel Attaching Bolts
Five Year Gel Coat Blister Protection * ( 2 )
Five Year Hull Structure Warranty * ( 3 )

SPARS & RIGGING

Furling Mainsail with Vertical Battens
Self Tacking Jib, with U.V, Protection, White
Complete Standing and Running Rigging, 316 SS
Internal Pre-Stretched Dacron Halyards
Wiring Conduit with Messenger in Mast
Selden In-Mast Mainsail Furling System
Selden Anodized Double Spreader Mast and Boom

SAIL HANDLING & EQUIPMENT

( 2 ) Two-Speed Self Tailing Primary Winches
( 2 ) Two-Speed Self Tailing Jib Halyard Winches ST Port/Starboard
Double Ended Mainsheet System Led Aft to Helm Position
( 1 ) 10 ” Winch Handle, ball bearing
Ball Bearing Mainsheet Traveler with Car Adjuster System led to Portside
11 ’ Genoa Tracks Inboard with Ball Bearing Low Lead Blocks
All Halyards led Aft, to Sheet Stoppers
Headsail Furling System
Selden Boom Vang, Rigid Adjustable Type

PROPULSION, STEERING & CONTROLS

Single Lever Engine Controls Mounted on Starboard Side
Yanmar ( 4 ) Cylinder Diesel Engine, 57 HP, Fresh Water Cooled with Common Rail Electronic Fuel System
Bronze Propeller, Three Blade
Sea Water Filter for Engine Cooling
Centrally Mounted Electronic Engine Instruments
Emergency Tiller Access and Emergency Tiller
Dual Station Pedestal Steering with wheel brake
Twin 32 ” Destroyer Wheels
Bilge Blower and Ventilation System
Illuminated Compass in Cockpit Table

DECK HARDWARE

Fiberglass Cockpit Table with ( 2 ) Leaves, Foot- brace, Center insulated Compartment, and Handrails
Walk Through Stern with Transom Boarding Platform
Stern Boarding Ladder. Telescopic Type
27 ” Double Lifelines with Gates Port and Starboard
Mooring Cleats, Two Fore and Aft
Midship Spring Line Cleats
Molded-In Gel Coat Waterline, Midwatch Blue
Midwatch Blue and Silver Sheer Stripes
Large Double Anchor Rollers on Foredeck with Mounting Point for Code “ 0 ” or Asymmetrical Spinnaker
Electric Anchor Windlass with Power Up and Down Handheld remote control
Large Divided Anchor Locker for Below Deck Chain and Rode Storage
Stainless Steel Handrails on Cabin Top
Stern Rails with Observation Seats, Cup Holders, Outboard Bracket and flag staff mount
LPG Storage Locker for ( 2 ) 10 lb. alum. Tanks
Hot & Cold Shower Mounted In Transom Boarding Area
Water-Tight Strike Zone Collision Bulkhead at Bow
Multi coat Varnish Finish On Interior Teak and maple
Veneer Bulkheads with Solid Teak Trim
Cabin Window Shades
Navigation Station with Chart Table and 110 and 12 volt outlets & USB port
Owner’s Stateroom with Large Double Berth. Cedar lined Hanging Locker, Drawers, and Private Head with vessel sink
Teak and Holly Textured High Pressure Laminate Sole
Inner Spring Mattresses on Fore and Aft Berths with Custom Fitted Sheets
LED Interior Lighting
Main Saloon Features Large Dinette, Gloss Finished Dining Table to Port, Seating Starboard with central navigation table
Guest Stateroom Aft on Starboard, Features Large Double Berth, Hanging Locker, and ample storage
Third Cabin Aft to Port, Convertible to Double Berth, Upper/Lower Berths, or Storage Locker
Dedicated Cabinet for easy access to Engine Filters located in Aft Port Cabin
Front Loading Refrigeration, D.C. Powered with Freezer Compartment
Top Loading Insulated Compartment, Available as a Second Refrigerator or Freezer
Polished Double Stainless Steel Sinks
Large Storage Cabinets over Galley
Large Storage Lockers with Drawers and Bins
Gimbaled ( 3 ) Burner L.P.G. Stove w/Oven, Polished
Multi-Drawer Bank with Utensil Storage Rack
Microwave Oven, AC Powered
Single Lever Faucet with Pull-Out Sprayer

PLUMBING SYSTEM

Pressure Water Distribution System with Filter at Pump and Tank Selection Valves for ( 3 ) Tanks
11 Gallon Hot Water Heater with Engine Heat Exchanger and 110V Electric Heating Element
( 2 ) Electric Macerating Heads with Holding Tanks and Deck and Thru-Hull Outlets
Electric Bilge Pump with Float Switch
Manual Bilge Pump and Bilge High Water Alarm
Head Compartment Forward with Vanity Counter, Medicine Chest and Shower Compartment Stall
Head Aft with Vanity, Sink, Medicine Chest, and Shower

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

Three Heavy Duty 8-D 12 Volt Marine Deep Cycle Batteries
60 Amp Battery Charger, Multi-Bank Automatic
L.E.D. Running Lights, Fore and Aft
110 Volt, 30 AMP Shore Power System with circuit breakers
( 1 ) 110 Volt, 30 AMP, Shore Power Cord 50 ft.
L.E.D. Anchor Light at Masthead
12 Volt Lighting Throughout
Custom 115 Volt AC/12 Volt DC Electric Panel
Circuit Breakers for AC and DC Electrical Panel and Windlass Control
Shore Power Galvanic Isolator
Ground Fault Circuit Protection with ELGCI
A.C. Duplex Receptacles Throughout

SAILING INSTRUMENTS

Raymarine i70 2-Multi Function Displays with Transducer 1 Mounted at Port and the other at Starboard Helm Stations – Speed, Depth & Wind

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Beautiful Catalina 42 Sailboat In Puerto Vallarta, México

Enjoy a relaxing & casual sailing in Marina Vallarta, México by boat! Charter the 42ft Catalina Luxury Sailboat Yacht for up to 12 people. Rates include food & drinks as a courtesy (12 drinks and 12 bottles of water, guacamole, and ceviche), snorkeling, fishing gear, bait, and gas. Does not include tips & transportation. Rates: (Based on 8 passengers in Puerto Vallarta) • Extra hour: $130 USD • Extra per person: $35 USD (up to 6 more) * PROMOTION Sunset Charter 3 hrs $570 usd INCLUSIONS: - Crew (3) , Port Fees and Liability Insurance - Snorkeling gear, Paddle board, Kayak and fishing rods (ask for your favorite equipment for your trip) What To Expect Onboard: The Catalina 42 has earned an international reputation by leading in design, cruising performance and comfort. It is the result of America’s most experienced sailors and builders. High volume strong hull, easily driven with a fine entry and firm midship section; it features a step-down boarding platform with a swim ladder, wide weather decks, and inboard shroud base make a passage forward easy and secure. All cabin’s interiors are carefully crafted: full furnished staterooms and bathrooms, excellent light and natural ventilation. Please Ask for a quote on Additional Services * DRINKS & SNACKS | Soft drinks, Beers, Seasonal fruit tray, Baguettes, Ceviches and Guacamole. * OPEN HOUSE BAR | Choice of Beers, Wines (Red, White, Rosé, Sparkling) and Liquors + Mixers * CHARCUTERIE Tray 60 | Deli meats, cheese & fruit Gourmet Tray * FAJITAS MIXED | Selection of Beef / Chicken * PHOTOGRAPHER | High-Resolution Photos * SPECIAL EVENTS CELEBRATIONS. If you have any questions, we can answer those through GetMyBoat’s messaging platform before you pay. Just hit, “Send Inquiry” and send us an inquiry for a custom offer.

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We were a group of 4 on the boat and our experience was superb. Everything was on time and with clear communication. The boat crew was amazing and attentive and really made our experience. The guacamole and ceviche ( Chef kiss) amazing. I highly recommend Hugo, they really know what they are doing.

Book this boat. The captain and first mate are exceptional. This has been the most spectacular and relaxing excursion I have ever booked. To top it off we were joined by great friends who had a wonderful time as well. You won’t regret this memory. Book at least 6 hours. That’s what I booked and wished I booked more. Thank you guys for a wonderful memorable day. We will be back.

Many thanks to a wonderful experience skippered by Captain Alberto and crew. My family of 6 thoroughly enjoyed the 6-hr tour on the 42' Catalina. Everything was top notch...very personable crew, fresh ceviche (yum!!!), great sandwiches, guacamole and enough beer to float a boat (-:. We enjoyed talking to the crew, learning about the area to/from the marina, snorkeling and Captain Alberto going the extra mile (literally) to take us to a pretty nice secluded beach for swimming an paddle boarding. We topped off the trip with catching 5 Mahi-Mahi/Bonito off the back of the boat. Super! Would most definitely take our family out again for the experience (perhaps going northbound for a change of scenery). We would definitely recommend "Get My Boat" and Captain Alberto and crew if you are able to get them. Thank you again for a wonderful experience...lots of great pics and memories. Priceless.

Our experience was smooth from start to finish. We had a staff of three on board and they were very attentive and very nice. The boat was very nice and updated with two working bathrooms. The only negative for us was the water was a bit rough and boat was rocking a bit much for one of our friends on board.

Our trip on Hugo’s boat was fantastic. Our party of 8 people ranged in age from 25 to 84, and everyone completely enjoyed themselves. Great trip around the Bay with snorkeling at Los Arcos and a trip to a small secluded beach. Captain Beto and his crew went above and beyond to meet and exceed our expectations. The crew could not stand to see any of us with an empty hand and were constantly filling them with either drinks or food! We would definitely book again!!

BIP Yacht Charters offers Exclusive Nautical Recreational Services in Puerto Vallarta & Banderas bay Mexico. Private Crewed Boat Rentals for a half day, a day or multi-day with and without food, beverages and other additional services to create a memorable experience. The boating services We provide range from Sportfishing outings, Sailing & Catamaran excursions and adventures to a Well Selected Yacht options. A 50 miles extension of mountains, rivers, coastline and pristine beaches Banderas Bay is a Paradise to Enjoy. BIP offers the boating experience & services for unparalleled leisure and extended getaways catered to fit anyone’s desires and every predilection. Whether you are looking for a relaxing day on the water, a family or friends trip, a boat excursion or luxury yachting, We are you ally to to celebrate life, a special day or a romantic cruise; our crew and staff will make an unforgettable and exciting trip.

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Fishing gear
Life jackets/required safety gear
Music System
Paddleboard

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Cancellation Policy

Full refund up to 15 days prior.

Additional Terms & Information

Terms and Conditions I. DISCLAIMER OF CONFIDENTIALITY. This agreement and the information in it are provided in confidence, for the sole purpose of providing a quality boat charter service, and may not be disclosed to any third party or used for any other purpose without the express written permission of THE CLIENT(S) or CUSTOMER(S). II. CRUISING SPEED. The Boat will operate at the stated Cruising Speed, be the trip a fishing or recreational one, see the brochure description which corresponds the boat. When the client demands to speed up, the boat can perform and it is permitted; it will apply a charge for the additional fuel consumption cost, generated by the hour or fraction of hour of time the boat cruised at this higher speed. III. PAYMENT: The Boat Trip Reservations will not be Valid if the Booking Confirmation deposit is not Paid in full. Likewise the balance due for the trip must be fully paid before departure, otherwise the trip will be canceled and no refund will be issued IV. CANCELLATIONS & AVAILABILITY HOLD: a ) CASE 1: Paid and Confirmed Booking within 10 days to the charter date. There will NOT be a Penalty if cancellation is issued with a 72 hrs notice. Cancellation with less than 72 hrs notice will apply up to 50% of the Total Charter Cost and cancellation with a less than 24 hrs notice or “No Show” will imply a no refund. b) CASE 2: Paid and Confirmed Booking between 10 to 30 Days to the charter date. There will NOT be a Penalty if cancellation notice is up to 10 days prior to the charter date, Otherwise the Booking Confirmation Deposit will not be refunded. c) CASE 3: Paid and Confirmed Booking between 30 Days to 6 Months Before to the charter date. There will NOT be a Penalty if cancellation notice is up to 30 days prior to the charter date, otherwise a Penalty of 20% off the Total Charter Cost will be charged due to the Boat’s Availability Hold. d) Holiday & Selected Dates: There will be no refunds for cancelations during long weekends, special holidays, Easter week, and, from December 22nd through January 7th. e) If the reason which generated the Cancellation is Extraordinary or Extreme, a reason why BIP Yacht Charters may require evidence and/or written support, this will be resolved by all parties involved (Client / Agent / BIP) in mutual agreement in the knowledge that there could be no refundable amounts due to expenses incurred and made in delivering the service. When the reason for Cancellation is Justified, it will First proceed to reschedule the charter within the coming days available, Secondly a Charter Certificate can be issued good for one year, which will allow the client to no overpay if the price changes and still plan better a future date that adjust more conveniently. Cancellations due to Covid reasons, will be analyzed individually as they come in, considering the CASES mentioned before and the actual Health Protocols and restrictions in this matter. V. LATE DEPARTURES: Boat charter time counts upon scheduled departure, whether the passengers are yet onboard or not. If there is a late departure due to delay of one or several passengers, the trip will be completed according to the remaining time of the charter. VI. WEATHER: The boat goes out no matter the weather, rain or shine, UNLESS the Port or Sea Navigation is closed or restricted; if navigation is allowed within the bay, the route plan and destinations will be shortened or adjusted to match a charter, and a refund will be issued for the difference paid if applicable. Rain does not constitute grounds for cancellation or rescheduling in most scenarios. If Port is Closed or Sea Navigation is restricted due to an extreme weather condition such as: hurricane, lightning storm or tornado when it is a dangerous to be in the water, BIP Yachts charters reserves the right to reschedule the charter with no additional charge or penalty. VII. REFUNDS & RESCHEDULES: The Captain has the final decision in determining if a charter must be rescheduled or canceled due to the conditions mentioned before and a full or partial refund may apply according to the each circumstance. There will be no refunds due to Sea sickness at any time of the trip; once the vessel has returned to Port, any further departure the same day is considered an independent charter and service. VIII. LIABILITY ABOARD: Clients accept liability for damages or loss of equipment due to negligence and, if applicable, an open credit card voucher or secure deposit will be required when signing a service contract. BIP Yacht Charters is responsible for the security and safe transportation of its passengers, but passengers must strictly follow the Captains orders and crew instructions to participate in a safe trip. IX. CHILDREN LIABILITY: Children aboard are supervised by crew members most of the time, nevertheless they travel under the responsibility and strong supervision of their Parents on board, in the sea and on land; therefore BIP Yacht charters accepts no liability on this matter. Additional hours should be requested to the Captain during the trip and before the vessel is returning, or about to get back to Port. In order to provide a great service for each charter, we highly recommend you to inform us prior departure if an extension of the time frame is needed. The hour cost may vary according to each vessel and the time extension purpose. X. EXTRA HOURS. Additional hours can be requested to your Ship’s Captin or Crew during the Trip and the Vessel is returning back to the Harbor. In order to provide the best Service and Trip itinerary on every Cahrter, We highly recommend you to Inform us through your Concierge or Travel Agent Prior Your Trip Date / Boarding. The Cost for the Additional Hours may vary according to each Vessel, whether Fishing, Sailing boat or Yacht and the state of the Trip in the Itinerary (Anchored or Cruising). We suggest to ask this ahead of time to be informed. XI. ALCOHOL & BEHAVIOR: The Ship’s Captain has the authority to cancel the trip if any passenger’s behavior is jeopardizing the integrity of the vessel or its occupants by means of improper or incoherent actions contrary to the service the ship is been chartered for, there will be no refund and, if applicable, the Captain may have the obligation to notify the Harbor Master if, during the trip, an illegal activity is been undergone by any passenger. XII. DRUGS & WEAPONS: It is the policy of BIP Yacht charters to prohibit the possession and/or use of drugs and weapons onboard of any of our vessels. Any possession or use of drugs and/or weapons by our passengers during the trip will result in the immediate return at the client’s expense and authorities will be notified. XIII. SHIP CABINS. Both, Bathrooms and ship cabins are NON SMOKING PLACES. During the trip, their use is prohibited for illegal activities such as: Use of drugs and/or weapons, sex with minors, improper manners not specified within this agreement which, in general, may totally or partially damage the reputation of BIP Yacht Charters, or, the current boat state: furniture, decorative items, upholstery, electronic devices, carpets, mirrors or props aboard. The cost of missing items and/or repairing damaged ones will be at client’s expense. XIV. PETS. Pets are not allowed aboard most of our vessels; please ask your concierge or travel agent prior making a booking. XV. PRICES. Some vessels' rate may vary according to specific high season dates or a trip schedule, such as: Christmas Eve (Dec.24th), Christmas Day (Dec. 25th), New Year's Eve, January 1st, or, a special night event in the Sea when it is scheduled after 9pm. XVI. FISHING TRIPS. Time Departure during rainy season (May through Oct) is subjected to sea visibility at dawn, sunrise time, distance to pick up spot and the requested fishing trip (4, 6, 8hrs,…). This is due to the high risk existing of boat damage if hitting unseen floating objects, dragged down by rivers to the sea during heavy or continuous rains, which cause most of the last minute boat failures and accidents reported, turning into boat no show, big delays and/or constant reschedules when applicable. Clients and travel agents, as well as concierges, should have in mind that communication between us is a must during early hours of the day, otherwise the client must be provided with a phone number of our operative staff in charge of dispatching their trip or vice versa. Our reservations agent will inform the best departing time for your trip in each case. XVII. MARIETAS ISLANDS REGULATIONS. The cliente will be previously informed about the Rules & Regulations currently applying for all visitor to this Protected area and it (they) will acknowledge each and everyone of them by providing his consent signature at the end of this agreement. XVIII. OTHERS. BIP Yacht Charters reserves the right to change this policy at any time. This statement and the policies outlined herein are not intended to and do not create any contractual or other legal rights in or on behalf of any party. If you have any question or doubt about our policies, please contact us for further information.

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We retire in 4 years and plan to base out of St Augustine and sail from Maine to Aruba to the Dry Tortugas and all points in between (ie, the Bahamas, swimin' pigs and all!). We might even do a trans-Atlantic or two.... Seriously considering that a used Catalina 42 would be the right boat for us over a 10 to 20 year period.... sooooo - Why not a C 42? Thoughts? Thanks

As a racer I was skeptical of Catalinas. However, I now own a Catalina 42 and I must say I'm impressed. I believe they are a solid, well built boats that sail better than I expected. I'd buy one again.

The sky is not the limit with a purchase price of around $100k with maybe $50k for upgrades. The primary criteria is coastal US and Caribbean with maybe once across and back to cruise a bit of Europe.

Not sure you'd find a MKII in that range... if you did it would probably need all of that $50K in putting it right. But the MKIs aren't that different, I don't think.. mainly in the look/deck and the cockpit.

Mmm, well this surely brings many boats in range. If ocean crossing is your game then they're many slightly older heavy built cruisers easily in budget. In today's market you could have change left over from your budget even after upgrades. A friend of mine has a Catalina 42 and recently has a problem with corroded keel bolts. He really uses his boat a few times a week out here in So Cal and corrosion is showing itself at the hull/ keel intersection. However he really loves his boat and it is perfect for Channel Island cruising with the occasional rough channel crossing.

slightly older heavy built cruisers ......that's exactly the type boat I want to avoid since I'm somewhat of a realist. IMO, most folks that own "heavy built cruisers" spend much more time touting their boat's blue water capability than actually sailing blue water. I like the larger cockpit and liveaboard cabin volume that comes with a perfectly capable design like a Catalina 42. Thoughts?

I personally wouldn't try to cross the Atlantic with a C42, though with a thourgough going over it should be more than capable of your other goals. Water will find its way into the v berth of my 1991 C36 after hours of pounding to weather. I know some of it is coming through the v-berth hatch, maybe only around the handles, but maybe the gasket. I also found wet areas along the hull indicating either a stantion leak or a leak through the hull deck joint. These issues would just a nuicance for coastal cruising, but could be serious issues for ocean crossings. Before I would take my boat on the coastal trips you envision I'd likely replace at least the v-berth hatch and rebed all the foredeck hardware. Just things to consider for you upgrade budget. Also you might consider a C400 as well.

PalmettoSailor said: I personally wouldn't try to cross the Atlantic with a C42, though with a thourgough going over it should be more than capable of your other goals. Water will find its way into the v berth of my 1991 C36 after hours of pounding to weather. I know some of it is coming through the v-berth hatch, maybe only around the handles, but maybe the gasket. I also found wet areas along the hull indicating either a stantion leak or a leak through the hull deck joint. These issues would just a nuicance for coastal cruising, but could be serious issues for ocean crossings. Before I would take my boat on the coastal trips you envision I'd likely replace at least the v-berth hatch and rebed all the foredeck hardware. Just things to consider for you upgrade budget. Also you might consider a C400 as well. Click to expand...

Not a boat I would take down into the southern ocean but for what you are planning they will do just fine. I would look for one with slab reefing rather than inmast furling though.

TQA said: Not a boat I would take down into the southern ocean but for what you are planning they will do just fine. I would look for one with slab reefing rather than inmast furling though. Click to expand...

I've only sailed two boats with in mast furling - a Hunter 40 DS and a Saga 409...both had furling issues nearly every time we furled, either at days end or with increasing wind. I don't think poor technique was the cause but rather less than perfect maintenance I suspect. I'm pretty sure that I'm nearly convinced that for every 10,000 sea miles an in mast system will malfunction more often than slab reefing... I may be budging on the wing keel issue but I doubt I'll ever own a rig with in mast furling. Thoughts?

I think I'm with you on both counts. I really don't have any negative experience with a winged keel, but the performance side of sailing always calls to me, so I'd almost certainly opt for a deep keel version of whatever proves to be my next boat, so long as the draft was still reasonable for the Chesapeake and east coast. The apparent convienience of the furling main appeals to one side of me while the performance side of my brain is repelled by the flat cut and lack of roach in these sails. Also being a bit of a pessimist, I fully expect a rolling furler main would fail me at exactly the worst time, which would displease the lazy side of my personality that was drawn to it in the first place, so this one feature I find easy to leave off my list of wants.

Ok, I'm just a weekend & vacation sailor, but that's every weekend from the beginning of April till the end of November. I've had three boats with in mast furling and that's part of the reason I'm out sailing virtually every day I'm on the boat, when many (most) seem not to bother. The latest is a 41 Beneteau with vertical battens and it's as completely trouble free as the other 2....and fast. Granted, it's not a boat for ocean cruising. So, it depends what kind of sailing you plan to do. Sit at the dock or circumnavigate would be one choice, sailing and anchoring most days would be the other.

I'm pretty sure that I'm nearly convinced that for every 10,000 sea miles an in mast system will malfunction more often than slab reefing... ...I think the more moving parts, the more chance for malfunction.

Good for you sails up and your gone. Enjoy!!!

Inmast furling would be a non-starter for me. After sailing the C42 for a while in nasty conditions, come back and tell us how she might handle 20' waves on a ocean crossing. Otherwise, sounds like a great retirement.

If given a choice I would go for the in mast furling. Having used most systems and having many get together's with other cruisers, It would seem those that had problems where due to worn, stretched and out of shape sail. If I can find me some more money and I do upgrade right near the top of the nice to have list will be In Mast Furling.

All good points ( I still remain skeptical from some experience with/ref in mast furling ...)... ...but my other issue is with a wing keel... A good salesman at the Miami Boat Show has me just about convinced I should go with a wing keel as first choice (fin keel was my original first choice)... I like the shallower draft wing keel for coastal US, Keys and Bahamas and not too worried about 'loss of upwind performance' in a C42 as the owner reports indicate they do quite well with wing keel..... BUT - how much more difficult is it to unstick a wing keel from a grounding vs a fin keel AND - the shallower draft of the wing affords less 'protection' for the rudder vs the deeper fin. Thoughts?

Are you sure you want to turn this into a wing vs fin keel debate? I think you may be better off reading a few thousand existing posts on the subject rather than rehashing it here. (In the end I don't think you will have a clear answer anyway).

OK... The only people that will tell you that a wing keel works as well as a fin keel are people that own a wing keel, or have one to sell. If you don't care about upwind performance a wing keel will serve you just fine. Even on the Chesapeake Bay, (lots of shallow water) I glad a have a fin keel and I don't feel like the 6' 8" draft is a problem at all. The boats I used to race on usually had approximately 10' drafts, and one was 14' 6'. The point is that I think 6' 8" really aint that deep. (But many will probably disagree.)

I agree with Steve on this one even as a wing keel owner. I also hold the humble opinion that 6'5" is not excessive draft for a 42' boat, even on the Chesapeake. Heck, a First 36.7 draws over 7 feet. Wing keels are a compromise and while they will perform "ok", they never out perform the same boat with a fin. I've only owned wing keel boats, and both of them exhibited fairly strong weather helm sooner than I would have expected. The fin keeled boats I crewed on seemed to have a bit more tolerance as the winds built. I'll tell you my boat sails ok and no worse than the many other shoal draft boats here on the bay, but if I could have the same boat with a fin, I'd take it. Re: the grounding issue I feel the argument is both overblown and there is a corollary in that I believe, based on my experience, that a wing keel is likely easier to unstick if you run around while motoring since its broad bottom tends to bounce/skip rather than dig a groove. I've found the bottom many times poking around the creeks off the Chessy, and have always managed to manuver off fairly easily. Now if you sail yourself aground, I agree the wing might make life more difficult.

Everyone makes such a big deal over wing vs fin. I have a question regarding the two, how much higher will a fin point? How much faster is a fin? Of course the answer, if there can really be one, will be approximate since every boat is different. Thanks in advance Brad

Take a look at the PHRF ratings to get an idea of the relative difference. A C36 fin is roughly 15-20 seconds a mile faster than a wing keel C36 as rated by PHRF of the Chesapeake.

In a slight rum haze....but can we 'convert' that to ' x percent faster'...?

I sailed a Morris 32 with a wing keel from the Chesapeake to Marion Massachusetts to Bermuda and back to the Chesapeake. I believe Morris Yachts are considered seaworthy boats. However, it seemed to me that every time we started to get some real wind she would just lay over and play dead. We would have to reef way down when everyone else around us still carried full canvas. I've had experiences on other wind keel boats the would just slip sideways in a blow. Perhaps it's overly simplistic but I believe keel shape has nothing to do with it - fancy shapes don't matter. The only thing that matters is getting more mass further down in the water provides a better righting moment. Hence my decision to buy a fin keel boat. For me it's right choice. To each his own...

Years ago I was the Measurer for the Catalina 34 International Owners Association. The C34 fleet had a very active one design racing component and a pretty rigorous one design rule which we calculated adjustments for things like roller sails and shoal draft keels. The problem with the PHRF formula is it tends to understate the impacts of things like change in displacement (shoal draft boats have heavier keels). For our 34 footers the difference in time between the two types of keels is more like 20-25 seconds per mile. This translates to a shoal boat being 3-5% “slower” than a normal fin keel. What the measurement doesn’t calculate is the tighter tacking angles of a fin keel. I’d say the fin is tighter by five to seven degrees. From my practical racing experience, I never worried too much about shoal boats as I could easily lift above them so I never had to split tacks, I’d just run them down and lift over them. So you think this only matters if your are racing? IMHO, it is probably more important as a cruiser. The added weight in the shoal keel becomes a bigger disadvantage as the winds get lighter. So you are turning on the motor sooner and motoring longer. You are not as efficient clawing off of a lee shore, nor are you as efficient if your destination is upwind. My opinion is you have to be a really good and constant trimmer just to keep up with a lazy trimmer on a fin keel boat.

Obviously there's a need for shoal draft in certain areas.. in others, like the PNW there really isn't... I hate to see the builders concentrate on wings/shoal keels and fail to offer a deep keel option for those who need it. We have a member here (Greyhound37) who has beautiful, quick boat - not with a real shoal keel, but one shorter than the deep draft option.. he's gone to the trouble and expense of changing to the deeper keel. Granted he races but still, one would need some motivation to spend serious money on that sort of thing.

Maybe not many others would be impacted by this, but when my 4' 11" spouse was on a Catalina 42, she couldn't reach an overhead handhold in the 6' 8" salon.

Mine's 5' 8" so I think she's good, but will check, thanks

With regard to C42 wing keel perf vs fin keel, I think we may be splitting hairs... A quick review of both Narragansett and New England PHRF current ratings indicates there is AT MOST only a 1.0 to 1.5% difference in perfomance ratings based on actual boats actually being measured and actually raced...interesting...

Wether or not its splitting hairs will be subjective based on the owners philosophical outlook, but I'm with the previous poster saying the evidence is the fin is more like 3-5% faster and will also out point the same boat with a wing. For many, many people this difference won't matter a whit, but to some having the same boat pull a "horizon job" on you is like a knife in the heart. Even in cruising pointing higher is a great benefit and I do think you'll have less issues with weather helm with a fin which is a plus regardless of other performance advantages. And thanks for whoever started this thread making me want to go buy a fin keel C42, when I can't hardly keep up the care an feeding of my C36.

I hate to be a shoot stirrer here but there is another option to the wing vs. fin debate for the C-42. Some friends of ours have owned a C-42 for the last 10 years or so that they bought in the Virgins from the original owner after he got caught out in a hurricane. The boat came through fine but the owner was so freaked out by the experience he was done with the boat. They bought her, for a very good price, and sailed her back to here to the southwest coast of Florida. She was the deep keel version and our pals thought a bit too deep for the area. So, they hauled her out and took a chain saw to her keel, lopping 6" off the bottom. We all thought Joe was "nuts" but he did save about 7" of her draft and quite a bit on her displacement. (I really don't know how much but a lot. He's still got the lead in his garage in case he ever wants to bolt it back on.) Despite everyone's misgivings, Wind Caller, has been sailed all over heck's half acre and performs very well over all and Joe and Casey are very happy with the boat. Up to 15-18 knots she stays on her feet and moves very nicely. They do have to reef down somewhat earlier than their sister-ships but, until about 18, she stays with, or mostly ahead of, the fleet. Joe is a good sailor and its a pain in the neck to always feel like he's breathing down your neck with that boat until the breeze really gets up. FWIW... PS: My (much) better half is only 4'-11" as well and she can't reach most of the hand-holds on that boat either. I am told they rig a grab rope from the companionway to the mast in snotty weather, just in case...

svHyLyte said: I hate to be a shoot stirrer here but there is another option to the wing vs. fin debate for the C-42. Some friends of ours have owned a C-42 for the last 10 years or so that they bought in the Virgins from the original owner after he got caught out in a hurricane. The boat came through fine but the owner was so freaked out by the experience he was done with the boat. Click to expand...

svHyLyte said: So, they hauled her out and took a chain saw to her keel, lopping 6" off the bottom. Click to expand...

svHyLyte said: My (much) better half is only 4'-11" as well and she can't reach most of the hand-holds on that boat either. I am told they rig a grab rope from the companionway to the mast in snotty weather, just in case... Click to expand...

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