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Bruce Roberts 43 Steel HullHello. We’re actively searching for a boat to sail the carribean for the post ‘18 hurrican season. Nov 18-June 19. 2 adults 2 teenagers. In our search came across a steel hull 80’s Bruce Roberts 43’. We have been looking at plastic boats all this time and really have no idea on what’s good/bad about steel hulls and/or this particular design. Any feedback would be appreciated. Sean, Way too much to answer in a simple thread. And there has been way too much discussion about the topic already. Steel hulls MAY be great or horrible. Just like any other material. Bruce Roberts designs can be great or horrible (just saw a boat attributed to him that clearly had serious issues.) Probably the best thing to do is post what you know about THIS boat and folks can comment on the specifics. BTW we have 2 mid 80s Steel boats. IM HAVING A DEVIL OF A TIME RESPONDING. EDITOR IS NOT WORKING RIGHT. See quote below. The comment about the area under the tanks not being easily inspected is troubling. Otherwise the boat sounds great. But I personally have had bad corrosion underneath a fuel tank. I had to cut the fuel tank out from under the cockpit and was not able to replace it. It all worked out fine but was a LOT of labor. I have next to zero trust in ultrasound. The problem being that it only gives spot measurements. A bad rust spot can be 1 inch from the measurement and you would never know. Frankly this looks a very nice boat, but requires some serious consideration of the potential risk. You need to look at it hard. The bilges below these tanks are not easily accessible but should be protected with coatings as in other areas. The anchor/chain locker has been recently inspected and epoxied/painted. A piece of the deck under the windlass was replaced. We have an industrial grade ultrasound thickness gauge to check the steel externally where we can not get at it from the inside. This is a good indicator of the integrity of the steel when it can not be inspected easily from the inside. Bruce Roberts sold (sells) designs to mostly backyard amateur builders, some of whom had questionable skills. Any opinion of a specific Roberts boat bears no relation to any other Roberts boat. boatpoker said: Any opinion of a specific Roberts boat bears no relation to any other Roberts boat. Click to expand... Post the link, if there is one, to this boat. Most Bruce Robert boats are home built. Not saying that that is good or bad, just be aware of it. If you do decide to purchase this boat have it surveyed. I assume that this is the Bruce Roberts Mauritius 43. The Mauritious was a popular design. As other have said, the build quality of these boats varies wildly from boat to boat since the majority of these boats were constructed by amateurs. In looking at a lot of amateur built boats over the years, I can tell you that they are very hard to survey because even a gifted amateur might get something like the woodworking right, and totally miss it on the electrical systems or rigging. In terms of the Mauritius itself, these boats were built in different materials. I have encountered them in fiberglass, cold molded wood, and steel. The hulls and decks have been produced by a number of different companies in fiberglass and sold as partially completed boats. In fiberglass or wood, these were decent sailing boats. They are not very fast and do not sail well in lighter winds, but they have made a number of notable voyages. In wood and glass they are a little lightly ballasted, and tend to be tender since the ballast is a low density ballast (typically lead shot or steel boiler punchings in either polyester resin or concrete) carried pretty high in the boat. The problem is greatly exaggerated in the steel boats since the steel boats are much heavier than the glass or wood boats and so the ballast ratios tend to be much lower and the drag higher. It makes the steel Mauritius a very pretty poor choice for areas with a lot of wind, or not much wind. In heavy winds a steely will need to be reefed sooner, and you will end up motoring more in light to moderate winds. But the other issue is a nearly 40 year old steel boat. Back in the 1980's I worked for a yacht designer who had a specialty in steel boats. He was about as knowledgeable about steel as anyone around at the time. His customers tended to use high quality yards to build their boats and Charlie would specify the state of the art rust protection processes of the era. And even with that level of care, it was thought that these boats maybe had a 30 year lifespan before they would need major plating work. The issue is that steel boats rust out from the interior and in places that are inaccessible. They rust out in those small crevices between the steel plating and the framing. They rust out in areas where there are small breeches in the rust proofing. They rust out where some corner of an interior furnishing touches the skin, and erodes the coating and holds water against the steel. I have been aboard some of the boats built to designs that I worked on, and 25 years out they have had a lot of work, or need a lot of work. So while this boat may be perfectly well maintained and may have had every necessary repair made, buying a steel boat that old is akin to playing Russian Roulette with a lot of rounds in the chamber. Respectfully, Jeff Jeff_H said: I assume that this is the Bruce Roberts Mauritius 43. The Mauritious was a popular design. As other have said, the build quality of these boats varies wildly from boat to boat since the majority of these boats were constructed by amateurs. In looking at a lot of amateur built boats over the years, I can tell you that they are very hard to survey because even a gifted amateur might get something like the woodworking right, and totally miss it on the electrical systems or rigging. In terms of the Mauritius itself, these boats were built in different materials. I have encountered them in fiberglass, cold molded wood, and steel. The hulls and decks have been produced by a number of different companies in fiberglass and sold as partially completed boats. In fiberglass or wood, these were decent sailing boats. They are not very fast and do not sail well in lighter winds, but they have made a number of notable voyages. In wood and glass they are a little lightly ballasted, and tend to be tender since the ballast is a low density ballast (typically lead shot or steel boiler punchings in either polyester resin or concrete) carried pretty high in the boat. The problem is greatly exaggerated in the steel boats since the steel boats are much heavier than the glass or wood boats and so the ballast ratios tend to be much lower and the drag higher. It makes the steel Mauritius a very pretty poor choice for areas with a lot of wind, or not much wind. In heavy winds a steely will need to be reefed sooner, and you will end up motoring more in light to moderate winds. But the other issue is a nearly 40 year old steel boat. Back in the 1980's I worked for a yacht designer who had a specialty in steel boats. He was about as knowledgeable about steel as anyone around at the time. His customers tended to use high quality yards to build their boats and Charlie would specify the state of the art rust protection processes of the era. And even with that level of care, it was thought that these boats maybe had a 30 year lifespan before they would need major plating work. The issue is that steel boats rust out from the interior and in places that are inaccessible. They rust out in those small crevices between the steel plating and the framing. They rust out in areas where there are small breeches in the rust proofing. They rust out where some corner of an interior furnishing touches the skin, and erodes the coating and holds water against the steel. I have been aboard some of the boats built to designs that I worked on, and 25 years out they have had a lot of work, or need a lot of work. So while this boat may be perfectly well maintained and may have had every necessary repair made, buying a steel boat that old is akin to playing Russian Roulette with a lot of rounds in the chamber. Respectfully, Jeff Click to expand... Let me counterbalance my own arguments against home built boats. After more than 4800 surveys (409 powerboat models, 350 sailboat models) I have been seriously impressed by the build quality, weld quality, materials and systems installation of only three boats. All three were over 48', metal, two trawlers and one schooner ...... All three were home built. You have to be careful but you never know, maybe you'll stumble into one of these three gems. Curiously each of these three were built by Croatian gentlemen. People tend to think about boats in much the same way they think about cars when in actual fact boats have more similarity with houses. No-one even thinks about who actually built a house because it's irrelevant - they look at how each one was built, perhaps through the eyes of an inspector but there is no "brand" to a house or concerns if it was built by a pro or an amateur. Like Poker, some of the best boats I've seen were home brew - a handful were better than any pro built boat I've ever seen. Every boat has to be taken on its own merits. I cruised for some years on an old steel boat. Here are some thoughts. It is my understanding that steel boats when they start to rust through do so progressively and that the progression is slow. I was around for a year when someone tried to repair then stripped out everything of value when he realised he had a colander . It was 18 months before he gave up . So have big bilge pumps. There is always someone with a welding set and any bodger can do an external patch. Any competent welder can cut out rusted metal weld in new and make a repair that is as strong as the original build. I am currently cruising on a GRP boat and I am much less adventurous about my reef running.compared to the days of my Ryton 38 and it's 1/4 inch Corten steel hull. Any locals know if Clancy sold that Bruce Roberts (47'?) in Victoria.? Finished empty hull. New perkins in a crate. Looked like a solid project for 20 grand. Was on Craigs but coudn't refind it. (hint, Slicing your face off with a zip blade on angle grinder can take the enthusiasm out of any enthusiasm ) Here is one with a new Perkins Bruce Roberts Spray sailboat for sale in Ohio Don't know if its sold yet. Then again for a few dollars more you can get one ready to go: https://wilmington.craigslist.org/boa/d/bruce-roberts-pilothouse/6392119598.html There was a 60ish foot aluminum ketch on sale for years. Finally went when it was reduced to about $100k. It was a hard hull with new unused sails and working motor. Professionally built by a well known yard, just can’t recall at he moment. It was a hell of a lot of boat for the money. Topper Hermanson I think. colin58 said: I was reading your comment with interest I am an old sailor that has had many boats, steel, wooden, GRP and Aluminium, the greatest boat I have ever owned is my Mauritius 43, have ridden out a cyclone on the way back from the islands to NZ, I have had her for 10 years and she has never missed a beat, the only work I have done on her is I altered the rudder to get rid of some of the weather helm when she is overpowered. She is not as fast as a Farr 11.6 (which I have also owned and rate it as the worst boat for cruising ever, and Farr is a Kiwi so saying that feels wrong). I have a well-built boat that has great rust protection and trust her to hell and back, which after all is what you want in a boat. She will get me 8.5 knts and cruises easily at 6.5knts, not the fastest boat but she will get me there. There have been over 2000 Mauritius/Norfolk 43 built and to my knowledge, some better then others but on the whole they keep on going. Oh and I sail in Wellington NZ where the wind is fierce and have taken this fabulous boat down to the Auckland Islands, where a lot of modern boats would struggle to survive. Click to expand... On one steel tug I captained, when I wanted a shower underway, I'd go down to the engine room (it was mostly below the waterline) in my swim suit and take my shower under the water entering through the many pinhole leaks at the waterline. Of course, being a commercial vessel, she had plenty of pumps, and crew was always aboard 24/7 to maintain them, and even bail or call for help, should it be necessary. I don't think many would like to live that way in their home on the water. The biggest problem with home built boats of any kind is that they appear price friendly to those on a limited budget. This then leads to a boat being maintained by those on a limited budget and with limited knowledge of how to properly maintain that boat. So, after 30 years or so of possibly unintended neglect, but not necessarily aesthetic neglect, what seems like a great deal, isn't. As stated above, just about anywhere one can find a good welder, but it is necessary to remove the interior where one is welding to prevent the interior wood from catching fire. Over my career I've seen dozens of steel boats sitting in the back of boat yards, with their interiors scattered under the boat and gaping holes in the hull, where the owner ran out of money to continue repairs and simply walked away from the boat. One of my favorite designs, a Virginia Reel by Philip Rhodes and built by Burger (they were steel) was advertised as a boat free for the taking, but I just didn't have the money to restore her. Sadly, she went to scrap. I could have cried. Top Contributors this Month |
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Images: 69. Our old boat was a Roberts 40. They are cruising boats, and do that pretty well, with decent amounts of room for their size. The size of the windows is really up to the builder - some might be on the large side, many won't. Bruce Roberts has been working with steel for long enough to know how to design boats that work.
12507 posts · Joined 2000. #3 · Apr 18, 2012. Bruce Roberts is very popular in some parts of the world but I am not a fan of his work. It is not so much that I do not like his work per se. I think that for the most part Roberts designs conservative simple boats, but to me they are very dated.
Boat Review Forum. SailNet is a forum community dedicated to Sailing enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about sailing ... spend a lot of time researching (reading books, forums, etc.) and sailing with friends. "The" boat is a 44' Bruce Roberts (1989), displaces 29,000 lbs and has a 8'3 draft. In all of my searches I have never seen such a ...
In this edition of "A Boat Owner's Insights," we get an in-depth look at the 1998 Bruce Roberts New York 65 Steel Cutter currently listed on our Boatshed Seattle website (link below). This is a true expedition charter sailing vessel with ample adventures and nautical miles already under her belt. From the remote northwestern coast.
Join Date: Dec 2010. Posts: 49. Consider buying a Bruce Roberts. I was abord a Bruce Robertson recently. The owner bought it from the builder who build it all by himself. It is a 43 with a longer aft end, so 45 feet. GRP and lead keel. Finished in 2010 after 18 years, and everything seems so well made, really impressing, and only high quality ...
Born in Victoria Australia Bruce was educated at Eltham High School & studied yacht design through the US based Westlawn Institute of Marine Technology. Bruce entered the marine industry and for several years operated a boat yard in Brisbane where he completed an informal boatbuilding apprenticeship. In 1968 Bruce founded BRUCE ROBERTS INTERNATIONAL YACHT DESIGN in partnership with Andrew ...
Nov 6, 2022. #5. Built a Roberts 30, first boat so I didn't know better. Since then, I've sailed most of the Roberts designs from the 25 to the 53. They are all pigs to steer. If you want a floating caravan, use the same materials to build a cat with resale value and a much simpler life. Cheers. E.
Although Bruce Roberts deviated from the original hull design quite a bit, they are still a fine vessel for trade wind sailing. The main reason they are said to be slower is really due to the change to Bermuda rig and lack of sail area. Unbeatable for comfort and load carrying capacity so make a great cruiser.
The boat can be built as either a Cutter, Sloop or Ketch rig and has a low profile aft cockpit or Centre cockpit arrangements. The study plan package includes all versions and sail plans and comes complete with a materials list in your preferred material. L.O.A. 13.62 m. 44' 4". L.W.L. 10.00 m. 32' 11".
The Roberts Offshore 38 is a solid cruising yacht designed to be handled by a couple and to give a comfortable ride and good all round sailing performance. The complete plans and full size patterns include many sheets of large-scale drawings, plus full-size frame patterns. The large scale study plan package includes all the rig variations and ...
Bruce Roberts. There are presently 23 yachts for sale on YachtWorld for Bruce Roberts. This assortment encompasses 2 brand-new vessels and 21 pre-owned yachts, all of which are listed by knowledgeable yacht brokers and boat dealerships predominantly in United States, Canada, United Kingdom, Malaysia and Netherlands.
Forty foot Bruce Roberts "Spray" sailboat - $1995. See picture of the frames tack welded and ready for the steel plating, on. this all steel sailboat. This is one of the most fsmous sailboat designs of all. time.I am getting to old for this project, and will unstack the frames and. deliver them for $1995.
Bruce Roberts: KLSC Leaderboard. Sailboat Calculations Definitions Bal. / Displ.: 29.17: Disp: / Len: 349.26: Comfort Ratio: ... 3rd ad full width. Sailboat Links. Designers: Bruce Roberts: Download Boat Record: Notes. The MAURITIUS 43 is probably the most popular Bruce Roberts design. It is said that nearly 2000 yachts have been built to basic ...
Location: Middletown, NJ. Boat: Bruce Roberts Offshore '38 - "God Willing". Posts: 41. Images: 23. Cooper, many thanks for the good words. Yes, the hatches alone are worth more than the selling price. 8 Bowmar C201's, and that single comercial hatch, in today's market are quite expensive.
In 1968 Bruce founded BRUCE ROBERTS INTERNATIONAL YACHT DESIGN in partnership with Andrew Slorach …. Andy is still involved in the business. In 1972 Bruce opened his first "International design office" in the USA. Bruce has since designed a huge range of sail and powerboats that have been built in fiberglass, steel, aluminum and wood epoxy.
12524 posts · Joined 2000. #5 · Sep 12, 2018. As others have suggested, you are off in the wrong direction if you are looking at a Roberts Offshore 38 and your goal is "to live aboard and sail the world." While the Offshore 38 would have been a pretty mainstream racer-coastal cruiser design in the late 1960's and early 1970's, by any standard ...
Based on an earlier Bruce Roberts design for DIY builders. Shoal draft: 5.0′ Sloop or cutter. Clearwater Marine was first builder?. Also known as PASSAGE 34, ROBERTS 341, and WESTCOAST 35. A Pilot House version was also available.
Roberts 34. This is an earlier design that still enjoys a great amount of popularity. It has been sailed in the singlehanded Trans-Atlantic race and has been built as a production boat in many parts of the world. It is also the design of choice of English Yachtsman Leslie Powles who has now completed three circumnavigations in his Roberts 34 ...
Remember it's a matter of distance and gravity. 5' of keel for a 29 foot boat is a lot of leverage. Talk to Phil and see what his thoughts are. He and Liz have put a lot of miles under their keel (Fine Tolerance) and I value his opinion. When I ditched the plans to build a Roberts 432 in steel, I talked to phil for his advice.
S. shinyscreen Discussion starter. 8 posts · Joined 2007. #1 · Sep 27, 2007. Looking for feedback from anyone who has sailed a Bruce Roberts Offshore 38. We are looking at a steel, cutter, aft cockpit, built in 1984. Would also appreciate any opinions on this design. Thanks.
The study plan package has details of all of the construction techniques in the material of your choice and includes the main materials list, accommodation layout, sail plan, building drawings, photo's of finished crafts and other miscellaneous information regarding this design. L.O.A. 9.14 m. 29' 8''. L.W.L.
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8 posts · Joined 2017. #1 · Dec 3, 2017. Hello. We're actively searching for a boat to sail the carribean for the post '18 hurrican season. Nov 18-June 19. 2 adults 2 teenagers. In our search came across a steel hull 80's Bruce Roberts 43'. We have been looking at plastic boats all this time and really have no idea on what's good ...